Somerset
Cricketer Of The Year
Haha yes, gunned down already.
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**Official** New Zealand in England
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Richard
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'Twas a cracking catch indeed.
TBF, the ball was there to be whacked, he just didn't quite get enough elevation on it.
Taylor in at three - at least one place too high I maintain.
Somerset
Cricketer Of The Year
Again, I think Mason getting hit for about 25 off his two overs in the 24 over match the other day had a big influence on the decision to replace him with Gillespie.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
You saw what I said about that, yeah?
Somerset
Cricketer Of The Year
Lol, yes. I'm just saying that thats the only possible reason IMO for including Gillespie in the side ahead of Mason.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I'm sure you're right. Still think it's a brainless decision though TBH.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Don't rate Mascarenhas as a pure bowler. With him in the side you'd just have Broad and Anderson as pure bowlers of any note. Bringing in a third specialist is a good move imo, though it should be Jon Lewis and not Chris Tremlett.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Indeed. Mason is a far better bowler than Gillespie in limited overs. They must be hoping Gillespie will come good and still will be able to have a ODI career.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Mascarenhas is an excellent OD bowler, far better than Tremlett in the shorter game. Lewis I hope doesn't play ODIs again, he's not going to be around in 2011 and I don't want to see us wasting games when we could be finding-out someone else is crap with them instead. In any case, Mascarenhas > Lewis as a OD bowler IMO.
I presume you'll so far only have seen Mascarenhas bowl in the corresponding series in NZ?
Tremlett on, looks like both How and Taylor are waiting on the pull already.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Haha, if you pick players on the basis of how they may perform for a short period of time in 3 years then your selection policy and priorities are seriously ****ed up.
Jon Lewis would thrive in these conditions which you have said would suit Mascarenhas. Lewis>>>Mascarenhas as a bowler.
I don't really rate Mascarenhas. As a 5th/6th bowling option, he's alright. But as a first change, he's not that good imo.
Natman20
International Debutant
Hes fine .... As long as the score england are chasing is above 320!
and not chasing a high run-rate for duckworth lewis!.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I don't get how you rate Mascarenhas so highly as an One Day bowler. Certainly, he's never going to be in a top five bowling list for any country, but given his additional power as a batsman, he gets selected. I have no problem with Mascarenhas in 20:20, but he's not a must pick in the English One Day team. I can certainly see his value being there in the squad, but he is not a better bowler than Tremlett, or Lewis for that matter. When you've got Collingwood and Bopara in your team, Mascarenhas is not going to provide anything substantially superior to what they offer, whilst Tremlett will.
And I reckon I've seen more of Mascarenhas and Tremlett (and Bopara for that matter) playing county cricket than you have.
And I reckon I've seen more of Mascarenhas and Tremlett (and Bopara for that matter) playing county cricket than you have.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
In ODIs all I'm concerned about is the next World Cup. I don't mind who wins and who loses in between. I know a good few others, especially those from Australia, don't think the same way, but that's one of the few things I generally think the England selectors get right. If they never pick Lewis again I'll be happy. Certainly wouldn't be if he was 6 years younger mind.
I say it again - how many times have you watched him? If it's just in the series in NZ, that's unfair.
Lewis >>>>>>>>>> Mascarenhas in the First-Class game, by miles and miles. But Mascarenhas > Lewis in the one-day game. Don't be fooled by their relatively brief ODI careers. Yes, Lewis has done better in ODIs but Mascarenhas has been far better at the domestic level.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Mascarenhas is one of the best one-day bowlers in this country. Simple as. If you're not going to pick him you're going to pick lots of poor bowlers. As England have done very often in recent years. Anderson and Tremlett are both very poor.
