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*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

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SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Kippax said:
Averaged 54 in his second season, 37 in his third, 24 in his fourth.

Young Northern Districts rugby lovers paired up with Munro and CdG sluggers on A tours garner so much from their $400 a night experience, obvs. Send them on more A tours.
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I believe this is known in the industry as 'being found out'.
 
cnerd123

cnerd123

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Don't think NZ want him to settle for a career in CC. They tried to recall him but he said no. I think he's had enough of International stuff for a while. Wants to be away from the spotlight.
 
straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Ryder really would be perfect to bat at number 6 in this situation and bowl his expert trundlers. It's a no-go though - even if it worked out in England, which I don't think is beyond the realms of possibility, it will fall apart as soon as we're back in NZ where a large contingent take delight in prodding him with a stick to see what happens. There was an article on Ryder on cricinfo the other day btw: Jarrod Kimber: Jesse Ryder's suburban fairy tale | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo.
A player who can move the ball like Ryder, and hit the ball like Ryder, who is free for six months of the year, is a ten-year county cricket player. This could be Ryder until he's 40. And by the look on his face, he'd be very happy with that.
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Prince EWS said:
Franklin's playing county cricket as a local (Irish) player this season, so he wouldn't be available even in the unlikely event he was wanted.
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My heart is broken!

Thinking more, I definitely want a batsman rather than (non-Ryder) allrounder at 6, with Southee, Boult, Henry (or Bracewell), Craig having enough firepower already. I surprise myself by thinking Elliott is probably the best choice here for one or two matches. Brownlie second, though I'm wary that picking him at 6 could mess more with his chances of opening for us.
 
Hurricane

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
straw man said:
Ryder really would be perfect to bat at number 6 in this situation and bowl his expert trundlers. It's a no-go though - even if it worked out in England, which I don't think is beyond the realms of possibility, it will fall apart as soon as we're back in NZ where a large contingent take delight in prodding him with a stick to see what happens. There was an article on Ryder on cricinfo the other day btw: Jarrod Kimber: Jesse Ryder's suburban fairy tale | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo.




My heart is broken!

Thinking more, I definitely want a batsman rather than (non-Ryder) allrounder at 6, with Southee, Boult, Henry (or Bracewell), Craig having enough firepower already. I surprise myself by thinking Elliott is probably the best choice here for one or two matches. Brownlie second, though I'm wary that picking him at 6 could mess more with his chances of opening for us.
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Hopefully they would enhance them if he tonned up. Hopefully.
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Michael Bracewell - would be nice to have a lefty in the middle order and as a top-order bat should be up to it technically. We've still got plenty of bowling so better to play a specialist bat rather than a no-rounder.

PS I was (kinda) joking about Jimmy F
 
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Hurricane

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Fuller Pilch said:
PS I was (kinda) joking about Jimmy F
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If ever write an article for CW it will be entitled "How to use ODIs to spot test match talent".
I will then devote 3 paragraphs to James Franklin and dissect the folly of his final call up into the test team. I realise that he had long been on the radar as a former, and very successful, front line bowler. But his recall to the test side was partly due to some dominating innings in the Plunket shied (which iirc broke Munro's law) and some eye catching performances for the ODI side.
He never looked the part as a test match batsman and had fundamental problems with his footwork. It was a mistake to recall him with the benefit of hindsight.

Other paragraphs would be devoted to Gareth Hopkins, Martin Guptill, and CW's favourite debating point Neil Broom.
 
kiwiviktor81

kiwiviktor81

International Debutant
As far as I'm concerned the jury is still out on whether Guptill will be remembered as a success at Test level or not
 
straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Howsie said:
Can people please stop mentioning Wells, Elliott and Franklin.
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Bugger off Howsie. Elliott may not have the technique or record to succeed longterm but at 36 he's the perfect senior to fill in for a game or two - not going to be overawed and if he survives (through luck or otherwise) the start of his innings then he is at least capable of building a partnership with whoever else is in. And that luck he might need to get in is no more than any of our other options would need afaics (Brownlie better against pace/movement but will probs get out to Moeen).

Who would you pick then?
 
Kippax

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year
straw man said:
Bugger off Howsie...
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Howsie can see the future of our cricket better than anyone on this forum tbf.

It was only once all of those 'well-spoken, looks a bit unco, but tries very hard' cricketers were banished that we started to cut the crap, started to be authentic to how this fun-loving, ponytail-pulling little nation really is. If the agribusiness tribe has spoken on Wells and Elliott, get Daryl Mitchell in there. He can't play spin well at all, but he gave it a good nudge in white ball cricket.
 
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