• Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

Flem274*

123/5
the speeds in that series were dubious tstl. anderson and broad sending it down at around 140 while we struggled to break 130 after being 140+ (135 average) at home and in sri lanka.
 

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year
Might've been a conscious ploy to seek some Franklin or Ryder-style tenfers. KNB's already in the wickets, I see.

I think it was <15 degrees for every day of the Lord's Test too. The Northern Districts pacers don't like it if you give them any Dunedin temps, they're like tropical fish that way. Hagley Oval's weather was a Tauranga boy's kind of weather -

 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
England would surely benefit from a couple of months of nothing-but County Cricket to get over their recent upsets, get back to normality, forget the World Cup and give time for some good domestic players to put up performances and force their way into the England side. Instead they're touring the Windies, then playing us in conditions that should suit our seamers and then the Ashes; there's no let-up. I don't envy them. I also have little feel for how their current tour of WI will turn out and whether it will result in a boost in confidence for them or not. All that said, anyone that thinks NZ are favourites for this series is dreaming imo, purely because England's new ball attack in late May is still every chance of tearing through our batting four innings from four, just like last time. We are definitely a better chance than last time though and I personally would be disappointed with any less than winning one test.

I assume we're going to get 200 v 200 shootouts with the Duke hooping round corners - noone expects anything else right? I have no concerns about our bowling; even if Southee or Boult have a bad day we should still have Henry or Bracewell (probably the latter due to incumbency I imagine) who will suit the conditions.... as long as Durg doesn't bowl short rubbish. However in low scoring matches it's all about which sides' batsmen can perform.

I'm disappointed for Brownlie, pleased for Guptill and still perplexed at the gargantuan faith shown in Rutherford. That said, none of those three nor Latham is a good bet for runs in this series - it will be very tough for openers. I'd be ecstatic with two fifties from our openers' eight innings and wouldn't be surprised if there are zero. I just hope Brownlie's omission isn't because the selectors have found something they don't like and will leave him out of further consideration too.

Like Bahnz said Williamson stemming the flow of wickets at three will be vital - he's scored difficult runs there for Yorkshire, some of them quite ugly I believe, and his crease occupation is huge for us. The bowling is going to push defensive techniques to the limit and Williamson has the best defense of anyone in the side. Some of the rest are fairly shaky. If I remember right Taylor was our only batsman averaging over 30 last tour - we need at least that from him again too.

I also think McCullum batting aggressively at five could be a sneaky trump card - hit bowlers off their length and ride your luck for a quick 70 here or there; would be huge in a low-scoring match. Aside from that, I'd like to see some lower-order runs if, as is quite likely, the top 6 is bundled out just in time for the ball to stop swinging (as appreciably). Watling/Craig/Bracewell at 7-9 is very handy.
Great posting like this reminds me to put an effort into my own contributions. Good read.
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Hopefully Baz can get on that Lords honour board - has had a couple of 90s there.

I reckon IPL-less Ross Taylor might play a series-defining knock at some stage.

Good to see Guptill in the runs against the red ball - it might 'only' be Canbridge but it is a good habit to be in
Hope he plays in the tests - even if he fails with the bat he will be useful in the cordon

Martin Guptill's blazing bat on fire early in England county scene | Stuff.co.nz
 
Last edited:

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
One thing in NZ's favour is that this test tour will be Hesson's biggest cricket focus at the mo re planning etc., whereas Moores will be thinking about (in no particular order) his job, the Windies, the Ashes, KP, Fleet Street, Trott, Cook, NZ, ODI strategies etc
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year
Sodhi's seeing stars after Tastle's latest domestic season, for sure.

As is currently the case with the struggling Campbell Live TV show over here, New Zealanders can't really articulate why the ideological wetness of Ish Sodhi or John Campbell is on the outer, but what's irrefutable is that they're just not posting the numbers that their employers would like to see.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Sodhi's seeing stars after Tastle's latest domestic season, for sure.

As is currently the case with the struggling Campbell Live TV show over here, New Zealanders can't really articulate why the ideological wetness of Ish Sodhi or John Campbell is on the outer, but what's irrefutable is that they're just not posting the numbers that their employers would like to see.
So I guess that makes Todd Astle the legspinning equivalent to 20 year old re-runs of the Simpsons - a cheaper, easier alternative with vastly less potential to influence the well being of New Zealand society/cricket for the better.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
So I guess that makes Todd Astle the legspinning equivalent to 20 year old re-runs of the Simpsons - a cheaper, easier alternative with vastly less potential to influence the well being of New Zealand society/cricket for the better.
tbf I think Shortland Street would be a better example. 20 year old Simpsons episodes have much to offer society imo.
 

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year
Nah Tastle is Mike Hosking. Both used to be that quite prim and posh kind of Christchurchian; one a technically correct English-style top-order batsman, the other fighting the good fight on National Radio, both making bugger all. Now both Tastle and Hosking are coining it after personal reinventions. They can be viewed as the Lord Haw-Haws of agribusiness, the Simon Cowells of agribusiness.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Todd Astle not a high grade **** though.

Or he could be, never met the bloke. Doesn't seem like it.
 

JediNudist

U19 Debutant
If England select KP then I'd say they will implode like a rotten tomato lol. A few players in that side who dont want to see KP wear an England shirt again. Still remains to be seen how players like Root , Ballance play. If they keep scoring KP wont get a look in for the NZ series. Thoughts on this ?

Im also ignoring IPL form for Blackcaps. Hit and giggle form cant be translated to the test arena. Although Maccas cheeky scoops were cool to watch,.
 
Last edited:

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year

Killing the domestix with the googly, Sodhi will want to take note of that. You can't lay it on too thick with the googlies.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member

Killing the domestix with the googly, Sodhi will want to take note of that. You can't lay it on too thick with the googlies.
Looks like his keeper isn't having any more luck picking them than the batsmen.
 

Top