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**Official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

JustTool

State 12th Man
From Cricinfo:

Speaking of the pitch - still day 4

33.4 Gillespie to McMillan, no run, howzat? back to a ball that rears in off a CRACK, ......

Sorry mates - this is not an Indian pitch or folks would be complaining :wacko:

Bucknor proving once again why he is absolutely and utterly incompetent - OFTEN WRONG, BUT SELDOM IN DOUBT - that's Bucknor...
 

bryce

International Regular
Warne is god said:
WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNIE

McMilan is a *****. He should've just shut up since he got away with a blantant inside edge.
adam gilchrist seems like a bit of a loser for his actions here, he is at fault and not mcmillan.
since when does gilchrist not appeal for one the batsman didn't even edge(and a proportion of these are also given out), he goes up for anything and no one complains to him, the only reason he thinks he can do that is because he is a walker which is fine but if you want to have an image as a player with good sportsmanship surely you should have to exercise the same sort of practice in the field.

just as i predicted, new zealand couldn't put together a decent batting performance in the later days, sure the cracks were influential in more than a few dismissals but thats no excuse, new zealand couldn't use them against gillespie and mcgrath this morning. i think the main reason for this is(like ian chappell said before the series) new zealands lack of fast bowlers, mcgrath, gillespie and kasprowicz were really fired up and hitting the cracks consistently as well as some class leg-spinning from warne. new zealand didn't really have anything to play for in that last innings anyway which may be a reason for their lack of application, also the umpiring was shocking in this test but in hindsight none of the decisions would of influenced the outcome of the match, well played australia.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
bryce said:
adam gilchrist seems like a bit of a loser for his actions here, he is at fault and not mcmillan.
since when does gilchrist not appeal for one the batsman didn't even edge(and a proportion of these are also given out), he goes up for anything and no one complains to him, the only reason he thinks he can do that is because he is a walker which is fine but if you want to have an image as a player with good sportsmanship surely you should have to exercise the same sort of practice in the field.
Yeah, I agree - a little disappointed in Gilly for this, and it's not the first time. I support Gilchrist's walking, and I'm willing to believe he'd do it under any circumstances. But he should cut it out with the "holier than thou" act, unless he's willing to start berating his team-mates for not walking, or smacking McGrath and Gillespie upside the head for stupid appeals.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
I'll never forget that image of Gillespie astride his "horsie". What the hell did that mean? :)

I missed the presentations - anyone know who got man of the match?
 

Jnr.

First Class Debutant
Slow Love™ said:
Yeah, I agree - a little disappointed in Gilly for this, and it's not the first time. I support Gilchrist's walking, and I'm willing to believe he'd do it under any circumstances. But he should cut it out with the "holier than thou" act, unless he's willing to start berating his team-mates for not walking, or smacking McGrath and Gillespie upside the head for stupid appeals.
Imagine Gilchrist batting with Langer, who gets a blatant edge and doesn't walk. What would Gilchrist say? "Mate you edged that, off you go!" or to the umpire "He nicked that one!"
Not likely.
:p
 

viktor

State Vice-Captain
could somebody post a video file of Gillespiee getting his fifty? That picture on cricinfo is hilarious!
 

bryce

International Regular
Slow Love™ said:
I'll never forget that image of Gillespie astride his "horsie". What the hell did that mean? :)

I missed the presentations - anyone know who got man of the match?
michael clarke did, as for your first question i have no idea :wacko:
 

Isolator

State 12th Man
Isolator said:
(posted on the 12th of Novemer):

Beat, eh? NZ will have to scrap like dogs, use up a year's supply of good fortune, and get at least a day of rain to escape with even one draw. I will be shocked if the scoreline is anything less than 2-0 to Australia, and will be satisfied if NZ can make it to the fifth day in even one test. In short, they're gonna get hammered.
Three days of rain, perhaps?

Oh, and also, I TOLD YOU SO.
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Disgraceful performance from the Black Caps.

Despite the odd rough decision, NZ were thoroughly outplayed in their second innings.

There must, I repeat, must be changes. McMillan the first of them.

Gilchrist needs to either pull his head in or tell Langer to remove the concrete from his shoes if he is going to berate the opposition for not walking.
 

Craig

World Traveller
I'm not going through the many pages - I can't be bothered, so I will just post my thoughts on the whole Test match here. I even went up to day 2 and got charged $41 to get in, if I lived in Brisbane I would have turned around and gone home, alas I don't. How much does it cost to get into the other Test venues in Australia and where you live in other parts of the world?

Personally as a Black Caps fan, would have to say this is pretty shocking cricket from the New Zealanders, and once again relying on the lower order to get the runs. With all due respect, it is great that people like Oram, McCullum, Vettori, and Mills can bat, but the fact is that they have to keep coming up with the goods all the time, is quite frankly entering crisis point IMO. If the batsmen did their job, these guys up the order and did their job, maybe they could come in and play a lot easier?

IMO I think it is time for continual inconsistent preformers like Astle and Styris get put on notice and be told to get the runs on the board, otherwise they will no longer be certainties in the team unless they have the runs. They are continuelly not getting the runs on the board, thinking that the tail will bail them out, and guess what, they won't always. Certainly I have every right to be annoyed at Astle in the first innings. I mean Australia's bowling was good, but I have seen better from then, and their (NZ) game plan on going slow obviously should be thrown into the waste paper bin, as it doesn't the game styles of Fleming, Styris, Astle, McMillan and the rest. Seeing McMillan leave a Shane Warne half-tracker outside leg stump and not trying to hit it into the stands, really was disappionting.

In saying that give credit where it is due, and I was impressed with Sinclair, Oram, Vettori, Martin (so much for Andre's theroy that he would be cannon fodder), Clarke, Gilchrist, Kasprowicz, Gillepsie, and McGrath's batting. It was fun to watch McGrath bat even though it was hurting my team.

But what is up with Hayden's and Lehmann's form at the moment? And another thing, maybe it is because you English lot listen to him a lot, but I don't see what the fuss about Mark Nicohlas is, I haven't had a problem with him at all in the times I have listened.

Anyway, here is some photos from day 2, courstsey from my camera (pic 5 is a large Mexican hat and it is Lehmann chasing over it, which he put it on when running back to give it to the cop). It's funny how many beach balls get collected my the cops and how many pretty young ladies get asked to take their top off when they are walking up and down the aisles to get to their seat?
 

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anzac

International Debutant
well sad to say I was right....................4 days not 3 & a real ass kicking - just what the Dr ordered.............hopefully this will lead to a few changes in lineup, players & strategies, but I have my doubts...............

a bit disappointed that there were so many cracks in the pitch on Day 4, but as someone pointed out already NZL couldn't make use of them at any stage over the last day...............

and not for the 1st time could the NZL bowling NOT exploit a deteriorating pitch - ENG series anyone?????

Also a couple of BIG umpiring decisions did not help the NZL cause - the lbw v Gilchrist off Vettori b4 he got going; and then the lbw decision against Sinclair this morning off McGrath - 2/14 is a bit different to 3/14 with someone from the top order still at the crease................

the other decisions did not really affect the outcome as the game was well gone by then - probably spared us dragging it out & prolonging the inevitable....
 

Craig

World Traveller
Voltman said:
Disgraceful performance from the Black Caps.

Despite the odd rough decision, NZ were thoroughly outplayed in their second innings.

There must, I repeat, must be changes. McMillan the first of them.

Gilchrist needs to either pull his head in or tell Langer to remove the concrete from his shoes if he is going to berate the opposition for not walking.
Agree 100%.
 

anzac

International Debutant
good post Craig - I'm pleased to see someone else thinks that Astle & Styris can also be held to account.............
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Craig said:
It's funny how many beach balls get collected my the cops and how many pretty young ladies get asked to take their top off when they are walking up and down the aisles to get to their seat?
Did any comply with the request? And did you get any photos of said occurence? :lol:
 

anzac

International Debutant
and so what changes for Adelaide?????????????

*Franklin in for Mills - as Mills apparently didn't see a lot of the ball in the last couple of sessions.............

*will they be brave enough to bring Marshall into the batting lineup - his being the only other batting option available..........

*I'm a bit worried by Flem's comments at the presentation regarding the bowling - back to a 5-5 split perhaps???????
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
JustTool said:
OK. Looks like this might be done in less than 4 days. NZ are 69/7 - wonder if Fleming will take a page from Ponting's book and complain about the pitch - after all how can NZ be 69/7 and put in such a dismal performance after their stirring 1st innings batting ? The pitch must surely have crumbled - another sub-standard pitch suited to the hosts. And on and on....Let's hear it ! :) :p
hahaha, yeah i think it crumbled just after McGrath and Gillespie's innings came to a close. :p
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
JustTool said:
From Cricinfo:

Speaking of the pitch - still day 4

33.4 Gillespie to McMillan, no run, howzat? back to a ball that rears in off a CRACK, ......

Sorry mates - this is not an Indian pitch or folks would be complaining :wacko:

Bucknor proving once again why he is absolutely and utterly incompetent - OFTEN WRONG, BUT SELDOM IN DOUBT - that's Bucknor...
Comparing this pitch to the one used in the last test in India is an exercise in stupidity.......the reason the game finished so early is that one team played quite poorly - or are you going to tell me that McGrath and Gillespie's innings should be ranked along side those of Tendulkar and Laxman in that test?

If you can't see the difference then i'd start to question your experience with the game.
 

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