**Official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

[Smudge]

Phssssst everyone can get off Gilly's back now... For God's sake, the man is one of the most sporting players in the game today, and he does one or two things that are considered inconsistent and people are all over him like a rash.

I think the good outweighs the bad. The man is a champion.

The answer to why we are on his back is in your own message...

 

[kwigibo]

Hayden (for being interviewed and saying what he thinks)

So that explains why the interviews are so short.

 

[EnglishRose]

Also a couple of BIG umpiring decisions did not help the NZL cause - the lbw v Gilchrist off Vettori b4 he got going;

I can understand why the umpire gave that not out. The ball turned in sharply from off to leg -- definitely some doubt would have crept in as to whether it was going down leg side.

 

[Scallywag]

So that explains why the interviews are so short.

He doesnt need to say much to rattle the cattle here.

 

[Mr Casson]

The answer to why we are on his back is in your own message...

I don't consider it enough reason to give him flak for it.

I think that what happened today was more of a Gilly being a wicketkeeper than a high-and-mighty walker. 'Keepers give the batsman a bit of talk from behind the wicket; it's just what they do. We don't hear Gilchrist telling everyone they have to walk when he takes the gloves off, do we?

Incidentally, Ponting was more annoying in the post-match interview, saying that Gilchrist never tells people to walk when it's quite obvious that he did today.

At the end of the day, credit goes to McMillan for coming straight out after the match and having a word to Gilly and sorting it all out. Good sportsmanship from both of them to leave what happened on the field.

 

[Dydl]

It didn't need to become a big issue between them-personally I am happy that it was a small minute thing that can be solved almost instantaneously.

 

[Mr Casson]

By the way, I forgot to mention this yesterday, but did anyone notice when Gilly was batting that he chopped the ball and it got caught in his pads, pulled it out and threw it to the bowler (I think it was Chris Martin)? It was on the full, so if the fielding side had appealed, would the umpire be obliged to give it out?

 

[Dydl]

Just asking out of curiousity-do you think they would have gone up to him and pulled the ball out of his pads-then appeal for a catch?

New Zealand are good sports, they might have appealed or they might have just left the ball.

Do you know what he was on when the incident occured?

 

[Scallywag]

Not out, if the ball lodges in the batsmans pads its a dead ball.

 

[Scallywag]

Law 23 (Dead ball)
1. Ball is dead
(a) The ball becomes dead when
(i) it is finally settled in the hands of the wicket-keeper or the bowler.
(ii) a boundary is scored. See Law 19.3 (Scoring a boundary).
(iii) a batsman is dismissed.
(iv) whether played or not it becomes trapped between the bat and person of a batsman or between items of his clothing or equipment.
(v) whether played or not it lodges in the clothing or equipment of a batsman or the clothing of an umpire.

 

[Mr Casson]

Not out, if the ball lodges in the batsmans pads its a dead ball.

Thanks for that Scallywag.

 

[Jnr.]

Incidentally, Ponting was more annoying in the post-match interview, saying that Gilchrist never tells people to walk when it's quite obvious that he did today.

So what exactly did Gilchrist say today? Did you hear it?

An excerpt from Cricinfo:
On what happened when McMillan stood his ground
"Generally when there's one that we think might be out and a batsman is standing his ground, quite often you are going to receive words. It happened in our innings with Justin Langer and there's no big deal being made of that."

So how do you know what Gilchrist said?

 

[bryce]

the 'stock' length most of the kiwi pace bowlers were bowling(especially oram) is actually the perfect length to bowl in new zealand pitches where it gives the ball more chance to move and get the batsman in two minds, i also know from experience because it is the exact length i try and bowl on new zealand pitches, but on your typical aussie deck you need to get it about one or two metres fuller which on a typical new zealand deck would be a good length to drive but not so in aussie so i hope the kiwi bowlers will adapt in the next test starting friday.
i think they will go with the 5-5 split and hamish marshall will miss out again, i think they will play the following side:

Richardson
Sinclair
Fleming
Styris
Astle
Oram
McCullum
Vettori
Franklin
Butler
Martin

Marshall
McMillan
Mills
Wiseman

altough i believe oram should be batting at 7 i think the selctors will go with this side providing frankilin is fit, but i didn't pick the last team and there is an outside chance wiseman will be picked but that would be very bold.

 

[Mr Casson]

So what exactly did Gilchrist say today? Did you hear it?

An excerpt from Cricinfo:
On what happened when McMillan stood his ground
"Generally when there's one that we think might be out and a batsman is standing his ground, quite often you are going to receive words. It happened in our innings with Justin Langer and there's no big deal being made of that."

So how do you know what Gilchrist said?

I don't know what exactly he said. But it's obvious that he said something pretty heated about it, you don't need to find something on Cricinfo to know that much...

 

[Jnr.]

I don't know what exactly he said. But it's obvious that he said something pretty heated about it, you don't need to find something on Cricinfo to know that much...

Last time something like this happened (India, 4th Test), Gilchrist said to Kaif who'd just gloved one to him, "The whole world's watching, champ".

I don't think that constitutes telling someone to walk. I think he may have been trying to put the batsman off.

 

[Mr Casson]

Last time something like this happened (India, 4th Test), Gilchrist said to Kaif who'd just gloved one to him, "The whole world's watching, champ".

I don't think that constitutes telling someone to walk. I think he may have been trying to put the batsman off.

Duuuhhhhhhhh... I said earlier that Gilchrist was just doing what 'keepers do: giving McMillan a bit of lip.

Also, Gilchrist saying "The whole world's watching, champ" to Kaif has absolutely no bearing on what he said to McMillan.

I think in a twisted way you're saying pretty much the same thing as me, except you only read my last post.

 

[Scallywag]

Come on he is an Australian so it must have been something really really bad, and its not what he said its what people thought he said that matters.

 

[Jnr.]

I think in a twisted way you're saying pretty much the same thing as me, except you only read my last post.

Yes. Sorry.

 

[Waughney]

Amazing display by the Aussies.

A lot of credit to McCullum, he took his dismissal very, very well.

 

[Mr Casson]

Amazing display by the Aussies.

A lot of credit to McCullum, he took his dismissal very, very well.

I was stunned by that. He plays his Cricket in the perfect spirit. It's amazing how endearing a person can become when they do nothing at all.