**Official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

[Tim]

interestingly, www.nzcricket.co.nz has changed it's design. It's very similar now to the new Australian site.

Up until now, that website was useless other than for watching live domestic scores. Most parts of the site haven't been updated for 8 or 9 months. I don't really see the point of the site when Cricinfo or even CW(!) are around.

 

[bryce]

the domestic sites are just as bad and instead of changing designs they should actually put information in the empty links, they have links to clubs, district and development which contain nothing, it would make the sites a whole lot better if someone worked and updated them a bit more regularly.

 

[shaka]

The site needs live scores for the games, not up yet.

 

[Jnr.]

Yes. At the Cricket Australia website. But it's really crap. BaggyGreen did a better bloody job of it.

Yeah the new site sucks.
It's either:
- down
- closed for maintenance
- slow with the score updates
- sometimes doesn't even have the scores

And it's got next to nothing on the site.

 

[age_master]

Three for Lee, not a bad performance to start his bid to get back into the test side some time this summer. He didn't get smacked around either.

great opportunity for him to gets some match practice, you can be bowling the nets down but matches are always different, and he really hasn't played many matches recently at all

 

[Kent]

i was the first person to bring this up and i may be wrong(sorry if i am) but weren't you one of the people saying the complete opposite in another thread ?

Yeah, I said I was happy with Sherlock being picked to go to SA.

'Donald Duck' isn't me - I was just jokingly suggesting it might be Gillespie himself or one of his mates.

 

[anzac]

ok so NZL all out for 213 & Sinclair gets 88 of them.................with Lee bowling 16.4 overs & 3/52 - but not Sinclair's wicket................does any one else see the irony of this??????

NSW 1/26 at stumps with Franklin 1/17 off 5, and
Martin 6 2 9 0.....................Butler yet to bowl...........

so does this mean that this is the preferred seam attack, or is Mills a dead cert to play?????????????????

 

[meatspx]

ok so NZL all out for 213 & Sinclair gets 88 of them.................with Lee bowling 16.4 overs & 3/52 - but not Sinclair's wicket................does any one else see the irony of this??????

NSW 1/26 at stumps with Franklin 1/17 off 5, and
Martin 6 2 9 0.....................Butler yet to bowl...........

so does this mean that this is the preferred seam attack, or is Mills a dead cert to play?????????????????

That didn't make sense.

 

[anzac]

That didn't make sense.

which bit??????????????

I thought it a touch ironic that Sinclair scored nearly half the total playing as opener V Lee as one of the 3 fastest bowlers in the game. Sinclair reportedly has a lack of footwork early in his innings & is supposedly suspect against the new ball attack - but Lee did not get his wicket - MacGill did.............

I was also wondering if Franklin, Martin, Oram & Butler were the preferred seam attack for the 1st Test, or if Mills' exclusion after having played in BAN whereas Martin had not, meant that he was already a starter in the Test side.......

 

[Kent]

From smh.com.au -

MacGill said he doubted the New Zealanders' ability to play quality leg spin following his innings-best four-wicket haul. Only Mathew Sinclair (88) provided any lengthy resistance, before he too departed in soft fashion, spooning a catch to Jason Krejza at square leg off Matthew Nicholson (2-41).

"The way that they played me? I doubt Warney will be all that nervous if he sees any footage," MacGill said. "That wicket's very benign ... and I got the feeling, as did our quicks, that if you wanted to stay in on that wicket you'd be pretty tough to knock over.

"That being the case, you'd have to say they didn't play any of us very well at all.

"It was an anti-climax for me, because I wanted to stake my claims for maybe a second spot in Adelaide, reinforce my spot as second-in-command. I think I probably did that anyway, but it was just a bit flat ... I'm not going to be doing victory laps with four-for against that particular New Zealand side."

Ouch!

Sorry BCs - take out Cairns, Bond, Fleming and Astle - and all they rate is your pirated DVD collection from Bangladesh.

Meanwhile, Craig McMillan (14) chucked away an excellent opportunity to push for a NZ berth at the Gabba with a wild swipe against MacGill.

McMillan, who arrived in Sydney last night as a reinforcement, came into the side this morning after Astle's withdrawal.

But the experienced right-hander showed the rashness in his 13-ball knock that has seen him fall out of favour with national selectors this year.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11355427%5E23212,00.html

 

[tooextracool]

which bit??????????????

I thought it a touch ironic that Sinclair scored nearly half the total playing as opener V Lee as one of the 3 fastest bowlers in the game. Sinclair reportedly has a lack of footwork early in his innings & is supposedly suspect against the new ball attack - but Lee did not get his wicket - MacGill did.............

IMO sinclair is more susceptible to spin than he is to pace.....

 

[Kent]

I was also wondering if Franklin, Martin, Oram & Butler were the preferred seam attack for the 1st Test, or if Mills' exclusion after having played in BAN whereas Martin had not, meant that he was already a starter in the Test side.......

How could a guy with a handful of rubbish overs in test cricket be afforded the luxury of being rested anywhere, let alone from the only warmup game before facing AUS?

I know Bracewell likes the guy, but not that much.

 

[Macka]

IMO sinclair is more susceptible to spin than he is to pace.....

He isn't great against either since at times he just doesn't move his feet at all. There is a good photo on the stuff.co.nz website of Sinclair throwing his bat after his was dismissed for 88.

 

[meatspx]

which bit??????????????

I thought it a touch ironic that Sinclair scored nearly half the total playing as opener V Lee as one of the 3 fastest bowlers in the game. Sinclair reportedly has a lack of footwork early in his innings & is supposedly suspect against the new ball attack - but Lee did not get his wicket - MacGill did.............

I was also wondering if Franklin, Martin, Oram & Butler were the preferred seam attack for the 1st Test, or if Mills' exclusion after having played in BAN whereas Martin had not, meant that he was already a starter in the Test side.......

OK sorry.

I was just nonplexed by your suggestion that Mills could play. Bowlers need match-time, the ODIs were not-exhaustive. I think it's clear that Mills isn't in the picture.

 

[bryce]

has butler broken down ? he has only bowled 3.4 overs out of the 44 thats been in the match, he also has 1/10 after bowling phelps, i'd be interested to hear what sort of delivery it was.....

 

[meatspx]

Yes, it is worrying!

 

[bryce]

sorry i think i am mistaken, on that aussie site Jnr gave us the bowling card read like this:

I.Butler 3.4 - 0 - 10 - 1
J.Franklin 12 - 3 - 47 - 1
C.Martin 14 - 5 - 25 - 0
J.Oram 6.5 - 3 - 8 - 0
P.Wiseman 7 - 3 - 13 - 0

which makes it look like butler opened the bowling and got injured, but on the cricinfo scorecard it appears that that is not what happened:

Martin 14 - 5 - 25 - 0
Franklin 12 - 3 - 47 - 1
Oram 7 - 4 - 8 - 0
Butler 4 - 0 - 10 - 1
Wiseman 7 - 3 - 13 - 0

confusing.....

 

[meatspx]

An article on stuff.co.nz said he had bowled 4 overs, and had "been used sparingly".

So he didn't breakdown, but i'm unsure to why he has bowled so little. Perhaps he isn't in consideration for the test side, that's why Martin is getting a thorough work-out.

 

[Tim]

Even though MacGill was blatantly sledging us, I have no problem with it. He's openly suggested this team is weak..which is indeed true.

I get tired of players like Styris, Oram, McMillan & Richardson writing ridiculous articles which try to convince the NZ public that they are better than everybody gives them credit for. Macgill suggested NZ will struggle against Warne & he's right. If our form against the Bangladesh spinners & now against MacGill is anything to go by...we're fudged.

 

[Tim]

NZ have fought back to have NSW 183/6 at tea. Butler looks to have been bowling well so far with 2/25 from 9 overs. Franklin has also taken 2/55 from 16.