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***Official NBA Thread***

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
Immense game from LeBron. The intensity he played with was great and I don't think I've seen that from him before.

I really hope they lose tomorrow though...

Oh, and I agree re: Nash and Rose playing minutes together, though I think Rose would be a poorer version of AI in that respect though. I think Rose needs the ball more to exploit his insane athleticism.
Absolutely, but have you seen him cutting to the rim when someone's actually able to pass him the ball? It's fap worthy.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
As much as anyone could hate Lebron, seriously, it's ****ing BOSTON. How are people liking this team? Garnett is a complete wanker, so is Rondo, and a Heat-Thunder finals is a way better spectable. So silly.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
I really dislike KG and Rondo but love the way they play. I dislike LeBron as well and find his game utterly boring to watch. And I really really hate Miami. Like, really hate them. I hated them before The Decision.

Easy choice for me.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
Lots of people hate Miami because those Hardaway, Mashburn, Mourning teams played awful ball. Was a Miami fan when I was younger, Mourning and Mash were two of my fav players.

I don't know how anyone could find Lebron's game boring, but that said, I find Tendulkar boring so who am I to judge.
 

andruid

Cricketer Of The Year
As much as anyone could hate Lebron, seriously, it's ****ing BOSTON. How are people liking this team? Garnett is a complete wanker, so is Rondo, and a Heat-Thunder finals is a way better spectable. So silly.
Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, and several of their respective players have also been massive pricks when they win or lose. Yet folk contrive to support their respective teams. Ah the sports fan. What do you really want?
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Lots of people hate Miami because those Hardaway, Mashburn, Mourning teams played awful ball. Was a Miami fan when I was younger, Mourning and Mash were two of my fav players.

I don't know how anyone could find Lebron's game boring, but that said, I find Tendulkar boring so who am I to judge.
Tim Hardaway's Killer Crossover - YouTube

Didn't care how ugly, would watch all game just incase this came out.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
As much as anyone could hate Lebron, seriously, it's ****ing BOSTON. How are people liking this team? Garnett is a complete wanker, so is Rondo, and a Heat-Thunder finals is a way better spectable. So silly.
Lebron is a big part of the reason, but don't discount Wade either. He's almost as big a douche as Lebron. The Decision, the Celebration before they even played a game, the way both Lebron and Wade have behaved like entitled and spoiled brats since those aforementioned events, all makes it easy to root against them...even against Boston. And I generally despise all Boston teams! I will be pulling for the Thunder to win against either of these two teams.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
You hate Wade because of 2006. You can deny it, but it's true and you know it. And it's fair enough, but it's entirely seperate of what I'm saying.

The Lebron thing is obvious and I understand it, but people (not Cleveland) need to get over it. You had no dog in the race and it's just sad. The man made an (admitedly huge) mistake in the way it was handled. He was 25. I'm 25. I do stupid **** ALL OF THE TIME. People need to get some perspective. I get that the team is unlikeable, that's fine, but the vitriol people spout about them is beyond rational. Lebron does more good in this world than probably any person you know or ever have met, where is his credit for that? That doesn't matter though, he made a poor choice nearly 2 years ago. Sheesh.
 

Adamc

Cricketer Of The Year
Have no b33f with LeBron or the Heat, just like Rondo mostly. Besides, any neutrals or casual fans who support the Heat are labelled bandwagon jumpers anyway.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lebron is a big part of the reason, but don't discount Wade either. He's almost as big a douche as Lebron. The Decision, the Celebration before they even played a game, the way both Lebron and Wade have behaved like entitled and spoiled brats since those aforementioned events, all makes it easy to root against them...even against Boston. And I generally despise all Boston teams! I will be pulling for the Thunder to win against either of these two teams.
The Decision was as much ESPN than anyone, Lebron thought he was helping out a children's charity by hosting it. The celebration was a Riley led initiative and was meant for Wade and his +1 who they thought they'd get. No idea why Lebron gets all the hate for it. The not 1,2 etc was the only mistake he made. He had every right to leave Cleveland, he lived up to all his obligations there and never once dogged it like Melo and Dwight, or asked to be traded like Kobe, KG did.

The Heat missed the boat for their easy ring last year though. The Thunder are stacked and KD is the biggest clutch killer I've seen for years. They're going to be in dogfights for years if they want a chip and I can't see what moves they can make to get the bench they desperately need, you can't rely on their shooters to knock down the easy looks they get. If they could find two or three of them they'd be in business.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Absolutely, but have you seen him cutting to the rim when someone's actually able to pass him the ball? It's fap worthy.
Yes, he'd turn into a slasher like Westbrook who'd rely a lot less on his jumper. Throw in his iso strengths when Nash is off the court and it's full of win, apart from the defensive end where both guys will struggle to guard their position.
 

Riggins

International Captain
I was thinking today, what's the deal with players restructuring their contracts and ****, can both sides agree and say reduce what its worth, say KD/Westbrook reducing their max's to like 85% max to try and keep harden/ibaka?

I think I remember reading an article about paul pierce restructuring his contract but have no clue how it works.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
You hate Wade because of 2006. You can deny it, but it's true and you know it. And it's fair enough, but it's entirely seperate of what I'm saying.

The Lebron thing is obvious and I understand it, but people (not Cleveland) need to get over it. You had no dog in the race and it's just sad. The man made an (admitedly huge) mistake in the way it was handled. He was 25. I'm 25. I do stupid **** ALL OF THE TIME. People need to get some perspective. I get that the team is unlikeable, that's fine, but the vitriol people spout about them is beyond rational. Lebron does more good in this world than probably any person you know or ever have met, where is his credit for that? That doesn't matter though, he made a poor choice nearly 2 years ago. Sheesh.
Haha, I dislike Wade because he did well against my team? The line forms to the left of the list of players that have denied the Mavs a shot at the championship. The team that I respect the most in the league is the Spurs, who are their regional rivals and have dominated the Mavs over the years and denied them the Western Conference many times. Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli are some of my favorite payers to watch.

How about we just accept that people dislike Lebron, Wade, and the Heat not because of jealousy or resentment, but because of the douchey aura around them. And what does Lebron "doing more good in this world than anyone else I know" have anything to do with rooting for/against a player? So we're not allowed to root against a player if they have a charity? Let's keep this in perspective and remember this is about sports, not if they're angels off the court. Otherwise let's just make a rule that we should love and adore EVERY NBA player (and should never be allowed to boo them) as I'm sure all of them contribute to charity one way or another. People like having heroes and villains in sports. The perspective to keep here is that it's not personal (for the vast majority anyway), it's just sports.

The Decision was as much ESPN than anyone, Lebron thought he was helping out a children's charity by hosting it. The celebration was a Riley led initiative and was meant for Wade and his +1 who they thought they'd get. No idea why Lebron gets all the hate for it. The not 1,2 etc was the only mistake he made. He had every right to leave Cleveland, he lived up to all his obligations there and never once dogged it like Melo and Dwight, or asked to be traded like Kobe, KG did.
I didn't lay all the blame of the Heat being disliked on Lebron. I was listing the reasons for the team being hated, not just Lebron. The celebration (Riley's doing) is part of the reason people root against them. Just like Lebron proclaiming "not one, not two, not three.." is part of the reason people root against him. And sorry, I don't believe the only reason Lebron participated in the Decision was just for the selfless act of giving to charity. I think a huge part of it was that he's full of himself and thus wanted a show. Even if we say it was ESPN that came up with the idea and even pushed him to do it, Lebron's still an adult who should be smart enough to realize how insensitive that was to Cleveland.

As to your point of Lebron having every right to leave Cleveland, of course he did. Conversely, people (not just in Cleveland) have every right to root against him for the way he left.
 
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Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Lebron's the best player in the world, and quite easily. No one plays two-way like him. He is a phenom. The public that hate him can be split. There are the Jordan/Kobe/Magic/X/Y/Z fanboys who hate the comparisons. There are those neutrals who've grown up thinking that unless you're a ball-hog like Jordan and go for every shot, regardless of its merit, then you're not 'trying' hard enough or don't have the right mentality. There are those who hate him because of The Decision or that he didn't go to their team. Basically:

Lebron James said:
You could be watching cartoons with your kids and you don't like it, you say, 'Blame it on LeBron.' If you go to the grocery store and they don't have the milk that you like, you just say, 'It's LeBron's fault.'
I'm not a Heat fan or anything, but I'd love to see him get a ring so people STFU already.
 
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Fusion

Global Moderator
If being a "ball hog" like MJ can equal winning 6 championships and dominating the league, then I would guess Lebron and every other A list player would probably try to copy him. Of course there was more to MJ's brilliance than that, and there is more to the criticism of Lebron than not being a ball hog. But why dwell on that when we can just say Lebron is awesome and haterz can suck it?
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
That's because it is one of the aspects people use to downrate him. Jordan's big thing was being a scorer. He wasn't a Bird or a Magic who could shut down the boards or get the team running; he put it on his shoulders scoring-wise and his teammates knew their roles well. That's why he won 6 rings. Other greats and arguable GOATs have won 3-5-6-11 rings doing other things well and that's lost on people.

Like, take the last shot bull****. If he passes to a wide open player, that's the play. Yet when he passed it and Haslem (?) missed it, it was about how he deferred. It was just another stick to beat him with. Lebron is not Michael and he doesn't have to do what Michael did but better to be better than him. He can be the best Lebron and be better than Michael. That's what I meant in that instance.
 
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