**Official** India v Pakistan

[Sehwag309]

This was not a mistake, this is was Plain Dumb, Bad and Ridicolous. People are sugar-coating as well it was 50-50, fact is it was nothing and thats the truth.

Again, lets get on with the game...

 

[infiniti]

Ok, enuff of Buck-Buck now. I think Bucknor will pay in form of a forced retirement from the game, anyways he has completed his century.
Now getting back to the game, I think the match is still delicately poised in favor of India.
it's high time Ganguly or Laxman clicks, and if India can manage a lead of 300+, the game will be for India to take after another 5'er by Bhajji.
Off late I am noticing a subtle but sure change in Dravid's attitude towards the game. He's getting more aggressive with his batting style as well as his behavior, he does not mind replying back in kind to the likes of Afridi. I was happily surprised when I saw him rally the crowd just like Bhajji does to break the **** partnership. I liked the way he slapped Razzaq for a 4 to complete his 50 and raised his bat as if he's telling the ***** that you still have to get me before you bat again.
Irrespective of the result of this series, I feel that Dravid should be made the captain and Ganguly should be tried out as a batsman in the next couple of series. I see it more as a restructuring of the team than a Pakistani shake up in the mixer. I am a big fan of Ganguly the captain, but Ganguly the batsman and Ganguly the fielder have not impressed me a bit lately. Even though Ganguly's maintaining a decent average in the ODIs and the tests over the last couple of years, his confidence is in shambles. I am constantly worried and scared when I see him bat . And I think it's utter injustice to Kaif and Yuvraj and the Indian cricket to have Laxman and Ganguly occupying the places without having to prove their worth.

 

[infiniti]

Is P-A-K-I a censored word??? looks like that. What about Hindian or Bhindian????

 

[infiniti]

Lol, I did not know **** (P-A-K-I) is such a bad word , and Bhindian is fine for the text editor, anyways I have no problems with Hindian or Bhindian.

 

[Sehwag309]

Is P-A-K-I a censored word??? looks like that. What about Hindian or Bhindian????

..on some sites, its used frequently, no one minds it...some sites have banned it

Hindian Bhindian is usually found on hard-core pak sites.

 

[Sehwag309]

infiniti

I saw the replay, the animated stuff between dravid and afridi was infact due to the appeal..ganguly was there too, he just ignored both

 

[honestbharani]

look umpires r human, they have to make decisions on the spot and under pressure, he has stood in 100 test and is respected highly, if he makes a bad decision suck it up...he didnt offer he light...so wot? it happens gave tendulkar out...so it happens, i think its karma u get lucky then u get unlucky its life...he got lucky in mohali.....just move on dudes!!!!!!! and thats not just to 1 person in particular

Sorry mate, I don't think he is all that well respected these days. I would like to see your reaction after he gives a shocker to Inzy or Younis.... We all know bad decisions happen, but they are just happening way too frequently with guys like Bucknor and Bowden. I know some umpires are bad but I think these two are the worst in the International panel and the sooner they are taken off, the better..... BTW, where is Simon Taufel? I rate him as the best alongside Rudi (I know he got that Sachin catch wrong, but he is still good.)

 

[honestbharani]

guyz relax...

just coz he gave one bad decision doesnt mean any thing. he's a great umpire and has had a great game. sachin shd relax as well. he got a big reprieve in mohali when he was at 10. ended up makin 94. thats how it goes. dont forget, inzy was given out lbw twice on two doubtful decisions, especially the 2nd.

Mate, he was out both times.... Juz because he had thrust out his front foot doesn't mean he was not out. Kumble rarely turns the ball and his quicker one never deviates off the straight line and the bounce was low and it was out. It was, at best, a 50-50 decision (both times) but you cannot complain with that. Youhana was out too. Only thing was height and I think it was again, 50-50. If you watch the Laxman LBW from the first innings, that was 50-50 too. You can see his middle stump when the ball raps him on the pads and therefore, it was possible that it was going down the leg side, just like with INzy and YOuhana (where the case was height). These decisions can go either way and they will be accepted, either way. Sachin's decisions (yes, both of them, at Mohali and here) were shockers. But Rudi is generally good and one bad mistake can happen. Bucknor has been consistently horrible. Geoff Boycott yesterday talked about how a lot of good umpires like Peter Willey don't do international games anymore as it would mean being on the road for all 12 months and they don't wanna leave their families. He basically implied that Bucknor was lucky to have done 100 tests and I think he was right.

 

[honestbharani]

There is no provision for the light to be appealed though, only offered.

Considering the actual rules then there are no grounds to attack the umpires for it.

OK, Mr. rules, there are a lot of things that have NOT been mentioned in the rules but they are still done in the spirit of sportiveness. A batsman of Sachin's calibre will most probably not say the light is bad unless it really is. So, there was a BIG CASE to consider it. And whoever told you that umpires don't consider batter's light requests juz because IT IS NOT IN THE RULES. And BTW, Bucknor himself admits that the light was fading fast and almost implied that his bad decision was because of that......ARGUE WITH THAT.

 

[Mecnun]

Both Inzy's dismissals were doubtful and as you put it 50-50 and doubt should go to the batter and that includes yoyo's dismissal. I am not defending bucknor who made a bad decision but the conpiracy theorists would put it to Bucknor having a personal agenda against India just because he gave Sachin out.. Let's get on with teh game..India on good footing with Dravid looking ominous..Anything about 250 will be too much for Pakistan I fear..

 

[honestbharani]

I never talked about Bucknor having an agenda against INdia. I was juz saying he is not good enough to be an international umpire.

 

[Scallywag]

A batsman of Sachin's calibre will most probably not say the light is bad unless it really is. So, there was a BIG CASE to consider it. .

Sachin should get the same consideration as any other batsman. If it is offered he can take, it if not play on. Where was all the complaing when Sachin didnt walk in the first test off a big nick, give it a rest.

 

[C_C]

Sachin should get the same consideration as any other batsman. If it is offered he can take, it if not play on. Where was all the complaing when Sachin didnt walk in the first test off a big nick, give it a rest.

A big part of the complaining is because Bucknor bolloxed up on TWO COUNTS- wrong dismissal and not calling for lights.......
Read his statement....he said that it was an error in judgement but lights were fading and it was dark...ummm. ex-FRICKIN-cuse me ? arnt you the umpire ? an umpire saying that ' i am sorry i effed up because of poor light' is indirectly admitting to incompetence- he is SUPPOSED to stop play if lights are bad.....so if lights are bad for his umpiring, it aint bad for the batsmen facing one of the fastest bowlers ever to play cricket ?

 

[Scallywag]

.......
Read his statement....he said that it was an error in judgement but lights were fading and it was dark...ummm. ex-FRICKIN-cuse me ?

C_C deal with it and stop being so melodramatic, tarting up his quote so you can vent your speen only shows what a poor sport you are . He never said it was dark, so get your facts right.

 

[krishneelz]

You have to be blind not to see the truth and that is tendulkar is great friends with Bucknor and Bucknor is teaching Tendulkar a lesson in cricket which is that decisions are part and parcel of the game and sometimes life is unfair which is the same case as the great Don who deserved an average of a hundrud but was just short. Its good to see tendulkar get on with the game although he was suprised but he left the feild when he was given out. if i was out there i would have given the big finger and then walked off but on the plus side it has made the game super interesting and it will be awsome to see how dravid ganguly laxman and the pakistani bowlers respond

 

[Scallywag]

if i was out there i would have given the big finger and then walked off

But a player of you stature would have walked in the first test krishneelz and earned the respect of the umpires hwo would have simply taken your word for it if you didnt walk.

 

[Mecnun]

back to teh play then, Ganga out to sami while dravid holds strong.. As i write Sami has just hit laxman with a bouncer..

 

[Sehwag309]

Sami is like Aktar today

I have no decent words to write abt Ganguly, just words which will bring *****

 

[krishneelz]

you are very wise scullywag

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Sami bowling one of his good spells? He has a quota of about one a year I think - just enough to keep him in the squad.

Sounds like a great bouncer.