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**Official** India v Pakistan

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
I was making a stupid decision to go to work rather than see a cracker of a 4th day of this test match.

Its all even at the end of three days and the last two days will be very good test match cricket, one way or the other.

Very few people would be saying that this will end in a draw atm.

As regards to Tendulkar decision, these are part and parcel of cricket and an odd decision can go against a team. But the logic of Bucknor not giving the light to the batsmen and then making an error in judgement (which can be to an extent made on the bad light) should among the errors he has made in the recent matches he has umpired, question his competency at the top level.

Will it be a day Laxman makes a crucial 50-70 and Dravid plays the wall once again to put India to a good position or will it be the day of Kamran Akmal?

It will all be exciting. :)
 

mofo123

U19 12th Man
wahindiawah said:
So??? Is Indian team dependent entirely on those two? are the comming batsmen not capable of scoring runs???

BTW i enjoy cricket and if i have irritated you somewhere then you too are irritating me by getting personal. :@
personal?! whats personal abt wot he sed? if u enjoy the game appriciate it rather then mouthing on abt pakistan fragile batting etc etc...just shh
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
aussie

yes thats true lads very exciting final two days in prospect at eden gardens, but i just dont get it with india-pakistan matches every time i test matches one has the other in a postion where either should capitalise a fightback always occurs.

Well thats why India-Pakistan matches are always great to watch :D
 

bhajji24

Banned
bucknor is a ****face

Gangster said:
Is it so far-fetched to believe that an umpire simply does not like a team? The Tendulkar incident is just the latest in a ever-increasing body of evidence to suggest that Bucknor is either an amazingly incompetent umpire (although his most egregious decisions seem to come solely against India) or, more logically, he dislikes the Indian team. Perhaps Ganguly has rubbed him the wrong way, perhaps Dalmiya put him up in a sub-standard hotel room, or perhaps Dravid slept with his daughter. We can guess for days, but from all appearances, it is clear Bucknor dislikes the Indian team enough to allow his decisions to be influenced. On another note, Darrell Hair sucks too.
yea i agree the black rat obviously has been rubbed on the wrong side by ganguly hahaha.....it was so dark on the ground i couldnt even see the blackie bucknor leave alone the ball :D
 

mofo123

U19 12th Man
look umpires r human, they have to make decisions on the spot and under pressure, he has stood in 100 test and is respected highly, if he makes a bad decision suck it up...he didnt offer he light...so wot? it happens gave tendulkar out...so it happens, i think its karma u get lucky then u get unlucky its life...he got lucky in mohali.....just move on dudes!!!!!!! and thats not just to 1 person in particular
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
aussie

bhajji24 said:
yea i agree the black rat obviously has been rubbed on the wrong side by ganguly hahaha.....it was so dark on the ground i couldnt even see the blackie bucknor leave alone the ball :D
hey mate dont appreciate those words about bucknor, i'm a black man too so show a little respect respect for the black blokes ok mate
 

mofo123

U19 12th Man
bhajji24 said:
yea i agree the black rat obviously has been rubbed on the wrong side by ganguly hahaha.....it was so dark on the ground i couldnt even see the blackie bucknor leave alone the ball :D
oi **** face! go and eat some cyanide, wots reffereing to his colour about? if sum1 reffered to ur colour ud get ****ed off im 100% sure of that, in my book thats racist and i dont stand racist ppl...sort ur self out and sort ur life out.

GET HIM OFF THIS SITE
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
aussie

mofo123 said:
oi **** face! go and eat some cyanide, wots reffereing to his colour about? if sum1 reffered to ur colour ud get ****ed off im 100% sure of that, in my book thats racist and i dont stand racist ppl...sort ur self out and sort ur life out.

GET HIM OFF THIS SITE
well mate u were quite stern towards the fellow their
 

mofo123

U19 12th Man
aussie said:
well mate u were quite stern towards the fellow their
sorry but he sed sumthing quite harsh abt bucker b4 in the site and he was told at his lnguage...he did it again and its just wrong to have those veiws! he made and honest mistake in the test and he is being personally attacked but ppl on forums!
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Proper action against him will be taken by the mods.

Lets concentrate on the game in the meantime ppl.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
aussie

mofo123 said:
sorry but he sed sumthing quite harsh abt bucker b4 in the site and he was told at his lnguage...he did it again and its just wrong to have those veiws! he made and honest mistake in the test and he is being personally attacked but ppl on forums!
well i didn't know all that, but i must admit i did feel offend by his comments i am negro so maybe ur sterness was justified
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Can someone tell me where it says the batsman is the judge of the light?
Dude, it's the batsmen who is going to face the bouncers in the dark, not the umpires. If the batsmen appeals for light, umpire should atleast take the damn light-o-meter out and check it.
Dont try to justify something which was utterly ridiculous, It was not like tendulkar was asking for lights at 12 noon.
 

infiniti

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Neil Pickup said:
The gap between ball and bat is 21 pixels. I've also plotted the 21 pixels on the shoulder of the bat - it comes about 75% from the bottom of the rubber handle to the edge of the blade. Whilst I don't know how wide Sachin's bat is, I do know that the handle to blade distance on my V500 is 14mm. 14mm × 0.75 = 10.5mm. Even given measurement error, I stand by my 2cm maximum
Thanks Neil for the analysis, now that I watch it again, I agree with you that the gap was no more than 2 cm max, it was a case of subconscious exaggeration of facts when you are peeved with some event unjustly turning against you. But that does not take even an iota away from the string of shoddy decisions that has been meted out to Tendulkar and co. time and again. And I do not think, citing Taibu's and Hauritz's dismissals dilutes the
seriousness of this decision or for that matter the incompetency of Bucknor.

To put things in perspective, I believe had it not been Bucknor but Daryll Hair, indian fans would not have reacted so strongly against the umpire (even though this being an India-Pakistan match). It's not just his inability to take the right decisions, but his arrogant "never say retire" attitude against his critics that fumes cricket fans all over the world and especially India. At the end of the match, if he has the guts and the gentlemanship (that is so often attached to the game of cricket) to owe up his mistakes, he'll be able to salvage some of the respect he has earned from this game.
 

ReallyCrazy

Banned
mofo123 said:
look umpires r human, they have to make decisions on the spot and under pressure, he has stood in 100 test and is respected highly, if he makes a bad decision suck it up...he didnt offer he light...so wot? it happens gave tendulkar out...so it happens, i think its karma u get lucky then u get unlucky its life...he got lucky in mohali.....just move on dudes!!!!!!! and thats not just to 1 person in particular

Yes umpires are human and they make mistakes. That was what happened in the first match when Tendulkar should have been out on 9 but went onto make 94. I can understand wrong calls by umpires when it is a touuch and go kinda thing. It was easy for the umpire to miss the nick Tendulkar got on thabll, hence gave him not out. If this time too, it was difficult to judge out or not out, I would have understood that its part of the game.

But that was not the case. This was a very bad MISTAKE by Bucknor. Tendulkar missed the ball by miles and I could even see it on TV. Whats more, Pakistanis did not even really appeal.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Sanz said:
I couldn't care less on what cheating 'means' in your book. 8-) I know what I meant.

If I wanted to call him a 'Cheat' I would have used the word 'cheat'. It is both easier and faster to type than typing prejudice.
So, don't you think that an umpire being prejudiced against one team is cheating? I sure do.
 

Sehwag309

Banned
imranrabb said:
justice is done.Tendulkar was clearly out in the first test so it makes up for it.

YES, but would have been real justice, if it was given out in the 1st test itself...this timea round Pakistan simply got lucky
 

Sehwag309

Banned
Bucknor Admits

Bucknor snips a Sachin special


MISTAKES DO HAPPEN, SAYS UMPIRE

KOLKATA, DHNS:

“Mistakes do happen sometimes. In certain situations, you are bound to make errors, but life goes on,” umpire Steve Bucknor said here on Friday evening in a tacit admission that he had erred in giving Sachin Tendulkar out, caught behind, on the third day of the second India-Pakistan Test at the Eden Gardens.

Tendulkar, leading India’s quest for a big second innings total after taking a 14-run first innings lead, was adjudged by Bucknor to have edged an Abdul Razzak delivery when he had clearly missed the ball. The West Indian, however, thought otherwise and a brilliant innings ended at 52. A few hours later came the words stating that he might have erred in judgment.

Bucknor was speaking soon after being felicitated by the Umpires Association of the Cricket Association of Bengal (CAB) for having stood in 100 Test matches.
Initially, the felicitation function was due to be held at the B C Roy Clubhouse at the Eden Gardens itself, but after Bucknor’s wrong decision triggered fury in the crowd and mindful of the fact that things could take an ugly turn, the function was shifted to a city hotel, where the West Indian was presented with a hundred roses.

“The very fact that I am here shows that I am not running away,” Bucknor added. “I have nothing to hide. The light was fading too, and like I said, everyone can make a mistake. At the same time, there is no point in merely dwelling on it; tomorrow is another day, and I will concentrate on what is, not what is over.”

There is a long history involving Bucknor and the Eden Gardens. The West Indian was one of the two umpires when the World Cup semifinal tie between India and Sri Lanka had to be abandoned due to crowd trouble in 1996. Bucknor also officiated in the 1999 Asian Test Championship match here between India and Pakistan, which had to be completed in front of empty stands after Tendulkar’s freak dismissal, run out after a collision with Shoaib Akhtar and caught short of his ground following a direct hit from the boundary line.

Tendulkar hogged the limelight on Friday not merely because of his 41st half-century and for the controversial circumstances under which he was declared out, but also because he made a specific request for the extension of the sightscreen at the pavilion end during the tea interval. Constantly troubled by movement by the side of the screen, Tendulkar complained to the umpires and the screen was extended by about a foot and a half, evoking angry reactions from Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer.

The former England player contended that the extended area blocked his vision as well as those of the players in the change room. CAB officials insisted that all Woolmer had to do was shift position a little bit to have a clear view of the proceedings. Such is the Tendulkar effect that he doesn’t necessarily have to score or fail to garner attention!
 

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