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**Official** India v Pakistan
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Beleg
International Regular
That was some finish!
Anyway, excellent day's play. Pakistan at this moment is certainly looking at 500+. Batting all day tommorow at the rate they are going will get them 360, so even if we limit that to 2 sessions, there are 260 runs which will take the total to around 530.
Anyway, excellent day's play. Pakistan at this moment is certainly looking at 500+. Batting all day tommorow at the rate they are going will get them 360, so even if we limit that to 2 sessions, there are 260 runs which will take the total to around 530.
Beleg
International Regular
The Indian bowlers missed a few tricks. Pathan looked insipid, Kumble apathetic, Balaji bowled a probing line but was negotiated really well by both the batsman. And they didn't even try some really short stuff, or going round the wicket in Harbajan's and Kumble's case. [AFAIR]
I personally thought the wicket had something to offer for the fast bowlers. Balaji was getting good swing, and the odd ball was zipping through at some rate. He spent most of his time trying to lull Youhana into a cover-drive and get him in the slips. If he had pitched a bit shorter, and focused more on getting a thin edge outside the off-stump he might have had better success.
I personally thought the wicket had something to offer for the fast bowlers. Balaji was getting good swing, and the odd ball was zipping through at some rate. He spent most of his time trying to lull Youhana into a cover-drive and get him in the slips. If he had pitched a bit shorter, and focused more on getting a thin edge outside the off-stump he might have had better success.
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FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Great stuff. I can't help but be pleased that the Indian fans on this forum who were claiming before this series and during the first test that Pakistan were equivalent to a club side are facing a possible first innings deficit. You'd have to think it's likely that the long Pakistani batting lineup could manage a 400+ score from here, and 500+ should give them a reasonable shot at winning the match if they bowl well.
With no weather problems so far a result one way or the other seems likely anyway.
With no weather problems so far a result one way or the other seems likely anyway.
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah. I wasn't suggesting all or even many of the Indian fans on this forum were doing that, but some certainly were, and it looks pretty idiotic now.Sehwag309 said:
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
The live coverage by SONY is terrible. The captions put up are wrong, the cameras change at the wrong time and now the picture comes three seconds after the sound! After such a long and dramatic wrangle regarding the telecast rights, did they have to settle with something so dumb?
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Comments were made about the Indian pace bowlers not getting any swing that made them so effective in the series in Pakistan. Balaji did get some movement, but it was of little use as the Pakistanis could negotiate him well. Pathan may definitely be carrying an injury- he's bowling at innocuous medium-pace and strayed down leg repeatedly, with a disappointing bowling performance to follow up not too many with the bat. Kumble was bowling too many off the pads.
Much as the bowlers didn't do much right, they were not helped by defensive field placings. Too many single-taking gaps were left on the field, even as bowlers were bowling exactly there. The fielders were also particularly slow- in positions such as mid-on, or anywhere Ganguly was standing (is this new?), the batsmen would just look at the man at the spot and how quickly he's running, and decide on a run. This pinching of singles is stuff top teams are made of, which should have been something the supposedly superior Indian batsmen should have done. Simple things when used well that can change a match- repeatedly taking singles, pouncing on the ball, throwing on the stumps. Yuvraj and Kaif may feel shortchanged.
Harbhajan was underbowled, but why was Sehwag not given even one over? More than 40 wicketless overs were bowled and he could have bowled at least 16 of them.
Much as the bowlers didn't do much right, they were not helped by defensive field placings. Too many single-taking gaps were left on the field, even as bowlers were bowling exactly there. The fielders were also particularly slow- in positions such as mid-on, or anywhere Ganguly was standing (is this new?), the batsmen would just look at the man at the spot and how quickly he's running, and decide on a run. This pinching of singles is stuff top teams are made of, which should have been something the supposedly superior Indian batsmen should have done. Simple things when used well that can change a match- repeatedly taking singles, pouncing on the ball, throwing on the stumps. Yuvraj and Kaif may feel shortchanged.
Harbhajan was underbowled, but why was Sehwag not given even one over? More than 40 wicketless overs were bowled and he could have bowled at least 16 of them.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
There should be some variety....Sehwag309 said:..Pak is 273-2 and ur worried abt SONY, yeah they are Pathetic...no hawkeye, 3rd class commentary..weird camera work but its TWI doing the production, SONY is just rights holder
What Salil mentioned was bad enough, but you could hear bat hitting ball before you could see it! And they say light is faster than sound.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Pakistan batting is showing a lot of determination in this series. And as one of the guys who supported Younis Khan as both player and captaincy material, I am extremely pleased for him. Any guy who stays with the team even when his dad has died because he was an inform player in a struggling team deserves a LOT of credit. His captaincy yesterday during the last session was a revelation and his batting seems to have gotten better as well. I think we are watching a future pak captain for sure.
And Sourav is moving towards the end of his career, FAST. As much as it hurts me to say this (and I have been a big Sourav supporter), I think he has to make a 100 in this series to even warrant a place in the side. I know he has been performing well in tests over the last year and a half...but I think one skill is not good enough. He doesn't bowl himself much, with the result that when he does bowl, he sprays the ball both sides. And the less said about his fielding the better. And his captaincy today was pathetic.
And Sourav is moving towards the end of his career, FAST. As much as it hurts me to say this (and I have been a big Sourav supporter), I think he has to make a 100 in this series to even warrant a place in the side. I know he has been performing well in tests over the last year and a half...but I think one skill is not good enough. He doesn't bowl himself much, with the result that when he does bowl, he sprays the ball both sides. And the less said about his fielding the better. And his captaincy today was pathetic.
lord_of_darkness
Cricket Web XI Moderator
Lol.. sounds pathetic..
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
The way Younis Khan batted (and also Youhana) was simple, but very effective. No fancy shots, just singles (at least two each over) and a four when the four-ball came, all of that put them in a commanding position. Then there were some who wanted Younis out of the side.
This is what's wrong with the game in India. Far too much depends on individual performances. More than just get a hundred, he needs to convert it into a match-winning innings. He doesn't even run between wickets- name any batsman from a top side who doesn't believe in taking quick singles. The way he bats, he would not fit into the top-6 of any side, let alone a top side. His bowling was something he let go waste seven years ago- he was capable of swinging the ball in helpful conditions and could have been the genunie all-rounder the team needed since Prabhakar's exit. His fielding is reason enough to keep him out of the side, at least in ODI's. His captaincy was never any good, given the drought of tournament victories.
But the selectors are a bunch of spineless cowards who are afraid of making tough decisions. Why, and I must ask, why, is Yuvraj on the bench?
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Yuvraj? I've never been that impressed by him in test cricket. What about Kaif?Arjun said: