*Official* India Tour of England 2018

[Agricultural]

It can't be harder to get good bowling stats and harder to get good batting stats in the Shield. You are trying to push that it's harder for both in your post. If it's harder to make big runs, the bowlers will have lower averages. If it's harder to bowl, the batsmen will have higher averages.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Well that was bollocks after tea. Our batting is woeful. Fatty will feast loads in the upcoming series before his retirement.

 

[Bolo]

County division 1 is probably giving shield a run for its money as a challenge. Not such a big difference in the number of teams, more imports, and variety in conditions.

AUS was way ahead for a long time simply because of the amount of quality being produced locally, but things have changed.

RSA was a long way ahead of county a few years ago, but is behind now.

 

[hazsa19]

Feels like England have played dire cricket all series and still wrapped it up with a game to spare. FML.

The worse thing about this is that when you listen to Root/ Bayliss/ whoever you realise that they’ve learned absolutely nothing from this series. You can see it in the continued bizarre and confused selection policy.

Obviously I’d never want to see England lose, but it might be better for our long term hopes if we did lose a series at home.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

And he's only just turned 30 too. Might still become the highest wicket taking fast man for India. Won't begrudge him that feat one bit if he stays the course.

Seems to stay fit very well so no reason why he shouldn't beat Kapil Devs record. Only question could be would he get in the side if all the pacemen were fit as Bumrah and Shami are surely first choice and you could argue that Bhuvi gets that last spot but the likelihood of all 4 being fit at the same time is rare.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

The worse thing about this is that when you listen to Root/ Bayliss/ whoever you realise that they’ve learned absolutely nothing from this series. You can see it in the continued bizarre and confused selection policy.

Obviously I’d never want to see England lose, but it might be better for our long term hopes if we did lose a series at home.

Our hopes will change once Bayliss goes after the world cup.

 

[Borges]

Ishant has turned out to be a key bowler for India now; keeping one end tight, giving away very little, he lends a lot of stability to the attack.
Don't think he will be dropped for one of the others unless the conditions are extremely bowler friendly

 

[TheJediBrah]

It can't be harder to get good bowling stats and harder to get good batting stats in the Shield. You are trying to push that it's harder for both in your post. If it's harder to make big runs, the bowlers will have lower averages. If it's harder to bowl, the batsmen will have higher averages.

Of course it can. I'm talking about individual players, not the competition as a whole. Speaking purely theoretically, if the standard in country cricket is lower in all departments, then players will have better bowling stats and better batting stats in Country cricket then they do in the Shield.

Realistically I think country cricket is generally more bowler friendly than the Shield (though I haven't looked into it), hence Shield bowlers will have more accentuated improvements in stats in country cricket than their batsman counterparts would.

 

[harsh.ag]

Shami averages 34 for the series. Stats don't tell the whole story. Like yesterday.

 

[fredfertang]

It's the way the Indian bowlers have stuck to their task that has impressed me - they used to all be like Sreesanth and their heads would go down after they'd conceded a few runs

 

[SeamUp]

Gooch one of my England favs talking about Cook's career. Great viewing.

Even name drops Kenny Barrington

 

[fredfertang]

Nice shot from Rashid there - maybe we are looking at 300

 

[S.Kennedy]

The county championship is almost certainly superior quality. The Shield just seems to be a series of trial session for Australia. Nobody bothers turning up.

 

[vcs]

Dharmasena is starting to impress me with his umpiring.

Good from Ishant.

 

[wpdavid]

The county championship is almost certainly superior quality. The Shield just seems to be a series of trial session for Australia. Nobody bothers turning up.

I'm not sure that there's definitely a correlation between quality of cricketers and level of attendance.

And the extent of Surrey's dominance this year suggests that standards even in D1 of the CC aren't all that. For this Surrey line-up to keep winning by an innings (or as near as dammit against Essex this week) doesn't say much for the standard of the other teams. Obviously we're decent, and Morkel has been immense, but there should be more of a contest.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

This could be one of those days where the Indian batting is blown away, so much movement out there and Anderson and Curran will be desperate to get bowling.

 

[S.Kennedy]

I'm not sure that there's definitely a correlation between quality of cricketers and level of attendance.

And the extent of Surrey's dominance this year suggests that standards even in D1 of the CC aren't all that. For this Surrey line-up to keep winning by an innings (or as near as dammit against Essex this week) doesn't say much for the standard of the other teams. Obviously we're decent, and Morkel has been immense, but there should be more of a contest.

Well if nobody attends, that isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the competition. In England we actually care about domestic cricket for its own sake and not just as a bunch of trials for the national side.

 

[wpdavid]

Well if nobody attends, that isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the competition. In England we actually care about domestic cricket for its own sake and not just as a bunch of trials for the national side.

But ultimately you're guessing what that says about the quality of cricket. I think our difficulty in finding genuine test cricketers over the last few years tells us rather more about standards in the CC.

 

[wpdavid]

This could be one of those days where the Indian batting is blown away, so much movement out there and Anderson and Curran will be desperate to get bowling.

One hopes so, although we may be a seamer short. Lets' hope our boys don't waste conditions by bowling that bit too short.

 

[S.Kennedy]

But ultimately you're guessing what that says about the quality of cricket. I think our difficulty in finding genuine test cricketers over the last few years tells us rather more about standards in the CC.

Yes but you can see Kane Williamson, Abbot, Morkel, Azhar Ali, Elgar, Ross Taylor play in the championship. The Shield is just built to be a feeder for Australia. Nobody is going to want to support teams that exist merely as subservient feeder clubs. In England we care about our counties. Some people I know love county cricket and are uninterested in test cricket.