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*Official* - India in West Indies

vcs

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Talking of poor umpiring decisions, Rob has some great ones on his channel. Some totally plumb ones involving Inzy and Pakistani umpires. :laugh:

Generally, it's worse to see a batsman sawn off like that though.
 
Furball

Furball

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Uppercut said:
If only there was some kind of ball-tracking system that could be used to assess mechanically whether it was likely that the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps.

Ahh, if only.
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That's my point - I can kind of see where people are coming from when it comes to HawkEye's predictiv element (even if I think their opinion is nonsense) but you don't even need HawkEye to tell you that wasn't going anywhere near the stumps.
 
shivfan

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Shiv's given out to an absolutely shocking decision by the umpire! How is that lbw?

This is why we need UDRS in these Test matches. I can't believe that in this day and age, we're ignoring technology, and allowing this potentially match-changing blunders to ruin matches.
 
Bun

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Such a sad thing we lost so much time to rain... otherwise could've romped this home really...

and 8-) at some posters who have popped up just now to have a go..
 
Cevno

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I doubt anyone is disagreeing with what you are saying there ,GF.

But wanting every decision to be referred to Ball tracking seems to be holding back the implementation of it atleast so much that shockers and howlers can be eliminated. (Udrs is not only for shockers blah blah blah etc..)

Besides is it clear that the LBW's without ball tracking can't be referred in the England - India series?
Would be stupid if they were not.
 
Bun

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Frustrating really...

Wish WI imploded like SL did in Cardiff...

really want us to correct our record in Barbados...
 
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Harbhajan is looking so innocuous right now.. no flight, no dip, no drift, no turn, no bounce, no doosra, no nothing.
 
Furball

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Cevno said:
I doubt anyone is disagreeing with what you are saying there ,GF.

But wanting every decision to be referred to Ball tracking seems to be holding back the implementation of it atleast so much that shockers and howlers can be eliminated. (Udrs is not only for shockers blah blah blah etc..)

Besides is it clear that the LBW's without ball tracking can't be referred in the England - India series?
Would be stupid if they were not.
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Have to admit I'm confused by your second paragraph.

When it comes to LBWs I'm not sure what can and cannot be referred. I know the BCCI don't like the predictive element of HawkEye but IMO it would be a nonsense not to use HawkEye to track deliveries up to the point of impact. It would be a farce if that wasn't implemented.
 
Bun

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vcs said:
Harbhajan is looking so innocuous right now.. no flight, no dip, no drift, no turn, no bounce, no doosra, no nothing.
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Yeah.. sadly when his batting has improved so much that it actually has saved our arses quite a few times, his bowling has gone down...
 
Cevno

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And ftr ,these were the type of decisions Daemon,Me and others were referring to when we said before the conference atleast we can use slow motion for the time being if there is no agreement on the rest of the technologies.
But we were told that it will be useless and only eilmnating shockers was of no use by some and the third umpire cannot decide etc....
 
Bun

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GingerFurball said:
Have to admit I'm confused by your second paragraph.

When it comes to LBWs I'm not sure what can and cannot be referred. I know the BCCI don't like the predictive element of HawkEye but IMO it would be a nonsense not to use HawkEye to track deliveries up to the point of impact. It would be a farce if that wasn't implemented.
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Agreed wholeheartedly...

Now can we please ****ing move on??
 
Cevno

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GingerFurball said:
Have to admit I'm confused by your second paragraph.

When it comes to LBWs I'm not sure what can and cannot be referred. I know the BCCI don't like the predictive element of HawkEye but IMO it would be a nonsense not to use HawkEye to track deliveries up to the point of impact. It would be a farce if that wasn't implemented.
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You don't even need to use Hawkeye or Virtual eye(which is better till point of impact) for these kind of decisions ,just a normal pitch map with slow motion camera would do.

I actually agree on using ball tracking up to the point of impact and even beyond that if it is not used for the marginal decisions but only for such shockers and perhaps where the ball is hitting some part of middle.
But what is holding up it's implementation is wanting it to be used for not only shockers and absolute clear decisions but Marginal ones too.
 
Cevno

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akilana said:
So would Dhoni thank the umpires today?
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What VCS said.

But if he actually went and thanked the umpires we would have a 50 page thread on it instead of a 25 page on making a somewhat negative comment about the decisions:p
 
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