silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
His 81 and 62* or whatever not out are as big as most double centuries.
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
andyc said:
Yes, I forgot he picked that.
Well done.
we have a lead of 220....we need to get that as close to 300 as possible...ok so they were shot out for 103 in the first outing but there is some good experience there and then there is this guy called brian charles lara....we would do well not to get too complacent....
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Jono said:
We need to start a fund so that every overseas tour we can send him someone to give him the Monica Lewinsky treatment.
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
About time a pitch like this was employed. It really separates the men from the boys.
How dare Lara doubt the experience of Charlie.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
LongHopCassidy said:
And apparently, there is one man and 21 other boys.
1 man, 22 boys and ONE ugly CHILD...that would be Chapell.
Let's see - he has destroyed Pathan's confidence, shaken the morale of the entire team with his stupid fight with Ganguly, taken over Indian cricket like he is some GOD. Reality is anyone who says what he just said below is an IDIOT. and I am sick and tired of "we just want to learn and improve with every game" - that is the lamest piece of crap heard from any one in a long time. He and More both need to be sacked....this what Chapell said after the 1st day when India collapsed, quoted by ABC as below:
The outspoken Chappell, who forced former captain Sourav Ganguly out of the squad at the start of his term, prefers to gloss over the crisis.
"I have said many times before that winning and losing is not the most important thing," media reports quoted him as saying in Jamaica.
"It's something that keeps the wolves at bay but the important thing is that we keep improving with each game. And I think we have."
Some, however, believe the time for excuses is over.
Let's see - he has destroyed Pathan's confidence, shaken the morale of the entire team with his stupid fight with Ganguly, taken over Indian cricket like he is some GOD. Reality is anyone who says what he just said below is an IDIOT. and I am sick and tired of "we just want to learn and improve with every game" - that is the lamest piece of crap heard from any one in a long time. He and More both need to be sacked....this what Chapell said after the 1st day when India collapsed, quoted by ABC as below:
The outspoken Chappell, who forced former captain Sourav Ganguly out of the squad at the start of his term, prefers to gloss over the crisis.
"I have said many times before that winning and losing is not the most important thing," media reports quoted him as saying in Jamaica.
"It's something that keeps the wolves at bay but the important thing is that we keep improving with each game. And I think we have."
Some, however, believe the time for excuses is over.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Dravid is a fantastic batsman but what the rest of the team needs to learn from him is not just technique but a far greater quality needed by test batsmen - the value he puts on his wicket.
The Sehwags, Yuvrajs and that new God of the Indian cricket fan His Highness Mahendrasinghji Dhoni need to look at how they fare in this regard. Test matches are NOT one day internationals and "this is my style and thats how I play" is no excuse for gross negligence of the basic requirement of a test batsman which is to stay at the wicket.
I have been reading here about Dravid's great batting but I have also had some guests at home commenting during India's first innings as to how miserably slow Dravid bats and how thois will be the ruination of Indian cricket. Yes. Thats what is the mantra of the 'drunk-on-sixers' Indian fan. But do we not expect our batsmen to know better.
I just did a quick calculation and found that during his last 20 completed innings, Dravid has stayed at the wicket long enough to face 154 deliveries per innings.
The figures for Ms Yuvraj, Sehwag and Dhoni are 56, 47 and 42 respectively ! (For Dhoni it is 19 innings since that how long his test career has been) Its a disgrace that someone whose dropping from the top batting ranking was mourned in India and whose elevation, ever so brief, was not just celeberated (and rightly so) but was used to denigrate the former God who had occupied it for weeks, months and longer.
Laxman, Jaffer and Kaif are better than this trio, though way behind Dravid, but guess who puts them to the ultimate shame? None other than Anil Kumble who lasts 60 deliveries per innings very often helping one of his senior (batting) colleagues to save a disastrous situation.
Before anyone jumps up to ask whether I am portraying Kumble as a better batsman that these three worthies, let me assure that I am not. The point I am making is that with all the natural "aggro" and all the other words Dhoni, Sehwag and company are feted with can not hide the fact that they are expected to have a defense at least as good as one of the tail enders in the side and an attitude and sense of responsibilty far greater than him since it is THEIR principal job and not his.
But is anyone going to bother? No one I think, least of all the sixer crazy new cricket fan of India nor the media which is equally ignorant.
The Sehwags, Yuvrajs and that new God of the Indian cricket fan His Highness Mahendrasinghji Dhoni need to look at how they fare in this regard. Test matches are NOT one day internationals and "this is my style and thats how I play" is no excuse for gross negligence of the basic requirement of a test batsman which is to stay at the wicket.
I have been reading here about Dravid's great batting but I have also had some guests at home commenting during India's first innings as to how miserably slow Dravid bats and how thois will be the ruination of Indian cricket. Yes. Thats what is the mantra of the 'drunk-on-sixers' Indian fan. But do we not expect our batsmen to know better.
I just did a quick calculation and found that during his last 20 completed innings, Dravid has stayed at the wicket long enough to face 154 deliveries per innings.
The figures for Ms Yuvraj, Sehwag and Dhoni are 56, 47 and 42 respectively ! (For Dhoni it is 19 innings since that how long his test career has been) Its a disgrace that someone whose dropping from the top batting ranking was mourned in India and whose elevation, ever so brief, was not just celeberated (and rightly so) but was used to denigrate the former God who had occupied it for weeks, months and longer.
Laxman, Jaffer and Kaif are better than this trio, though way behind Dravid, but guess who puts them to the ultimate shame? None other than Anil Kumble who lasts 60 deliveries per innings very often helping one of his senior (batting) colleagues to save a disastrous situation.
Before anyone jumps up to ask whether I am portraying Kumble as a better batsman that these three worthies, let me assure that I am not. The point I am making is that with all the natural "aggro" and all the other words Dhoni, Sehwag and company are feted with can not hide the fact that they are expected to have a defense at least as good as one of the tail enders in the side and an attitude and sense of responsibilty far greater than him since it is THEIR principal job and not his.
But is anyone going to bother? No one I think, least of all the sixer crazy new cricket fan of India nor the media which is equally ignorant.
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Dravid is really playing a class innings. He is definitely the difference between the two teams at the moment. IMO, if india can get themselves to a lead of about 270, they can win the game. Hopefully, Kumble can stick around and Dravid can go on to make a hundred. He deserves it!
IndianByHeart
U19 Vice-Captain
I wonder why Bhajji was kept out of team for so long? a proper team selection would probably have seen India winning the series 3-0, but in reality they will end up winning 1-0.Still a series win is a great and the fans should be happy.
I didn't understand what Chappel was trying to say, it made no sense.Winning is definately important, especially for a team that has not won overseas series in ages.Denying that sounds extremely foolish.
I didn't understand what Chappel was trying to say, it made no sense.Winning is definately important, especially for a team that has not won overseas series in ages.Denying that sounds extremely foolish.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Chappell does upset people with his brusque (read no nonsense) manner and he is no body's lackey in a country and a set up spoilt by such types.
One may disagree with some of the selections but when have 'fan-selectors' or 'media-selectors' ever conceded that the selectors also have a point of view used to make a judgement albeit before and not after the event.
As far as calling Chappell names is concerned, those who do it are either saying that Dravid is a nincompoop who doesnt know what his rights are and is willing to be used as a doormat by a dominating Aussie or are just too scared to speak against a popular sportsman while shouting abuse at a media erected demon figure.
Dravid has repeatedlysaid that he is a party to all decisions but we continue to put the devil's hat on the conveniet and easy to hate Aussie.
Grow up and think on your own and not be influenced by the soap opera conducted by the Indian electronic media.
As far as performance is concerned, the coach can not bat and bowl for the team and the captain can only bat for himself.
It must be so frustrating for Dravid and Chappell not being able to respond in kind to the abuse hurled at the new management irrespective of whether the team is winning, close to winning and deprived by rain or losing.
One may disagree with some of the selections but when have 'fan-selectors' or 'media-selectors' ever conceded that the selectors also have a point of view used to make a judgement albeit before and not after the event.
As far as calling Chappell names is concerned, those who do it are either saying that Dravid is a nincompoop who doesnt know what his rights are and is willing to be used as a doormat by a dominating Aussie or are just too scared to speak against a popular sportsman while shouting abuse at a media erected demon figure.
Dravid has repeatedlysaid that he is a party to all decisions but we continue to put the devil's hat on the conveniet and easy to hate Aussie.
Grow up and think on your own and not be influenced by the soap opera conducted by the Indian electronic media.
As far as performance is concerned, the coach can not bat and bowl for the team and the captain can only bat for himself.
It must be so frustrating for Dravid and Chappell not being able to respond in kind to the abuse hurled at the new management irrespective of whether the team is winning, close to winning and deprived by rain or losing.
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IndianByHeart
U19 Vice-Captain
The way Pathan has fared lately, he deserve to be dropped.Also sometimes its better for a player himself to be dropped from the team while he's struggling rather than to just go on playing .JustTool said:
ramu
Cricket Spectator
IndianByHeart said:I wonder why Bhajji was kept out of team for so long? a proper team selection would probably have seen India winning the series 3-0, but in reality they will end up winning 1-0.Still a series win is a great and the fans should be happy.
Bhajji s gott drunk before the second test he and irfan pathan went to a nite culb where they gott hammerd
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Dravid goes - magnificent innings. We'll be all out in the next ten runs.