Dravid said:Welcome back Pratyush, been a while since you posted
Anyway, I would like to tell you all something I saw on the news(Even though I know they are idiots, I watch it to see who they blame) and these idiots are blaming Sachin for not saving us...wtf.
Yes, it tends to be, if that player has started in his early 20s and has been playing say 8 years International cricket - SRT's been playing 16 years...PhoenixFire said:Sachin has proved that he still has it. He's 32 isn't he? I think that is the ultimate peak for Test batsmen, maybe even older.
Where were you when India won and Sachin got a 50 in the first innings?JustTool said:Tendulkar has been a "has-been" cricketer for many years now - all he is doing is milking the gullible fans. He is still one of the best businessman out there. Can you even begin to comapre him with Ponting or Lara. When, oh when, will BCCI fire Greg Chappell and relieve Dravid of his captaincy - the best players do NOT make the best captians
Your body wears down.PhoenixFire said:What difference does it make?
Huge difference. His body is that of a 36-37 year old, most likely. International cricket beats you up.PhoenixFire said:What difference does it make?
So is Lara.PhoenixFire said:He doesn't really seem that bad to be honest. He can bowl a fair few overs, and is still a top fielder, making diving stops and catching ect.
Its more subtle, mate. You start not seeing the ball as clearly, your injuries start taking their toll, etc.PhoenixFire said:He doesn't really seem that bad to be honest. He can bowl a fair few overs, and is still a top fielder, making diving stops and catching ect.
he is actually dropping quite a few more than he used to i would say, he used to rarely drop catches even though he wasn't all that spectacular....just wish he has enough left in the tank for a final hurrah(and not against bangladesh either) before he goes off into the sunset...PhoenixFire said:He doesn't really seem that bad to be honest. He can bowl a fair few overs, and is still a top fielder, making diving stops and catching ect.
Yup. At this point, I've come around to the fact that it will probably end for him soon. Whether thats at the world cup, or a couple tours after that, I don't think he will be around past another year.Anil said:he is actually dropping quite a few more than he used to i would say, he used to rarely drop catches even though he wasn't all that spectacular....just wish he has enough left in the tank for a final hurrah(and not against bangladesh either) before he goes off into the sunset...
He is a has-been, but I don't think the "milking the gullible fans" comment was called for.. He gives 100 percent and is still a good batsmen, the fans don't need any milking to be gullible anyway..JustTool said:Tendulkar has been a "has-been" cricketer for many years now - all he is doing is milking the gullible fans.
His form means he is not a good batsman at this stage. Averaging in the twenties over a period of 9 tests is not acceptable, especially for him.Langeveldt said:He is a has-been, but I don't think the "milking the gullible fans" comment was called for.. He gives 100 percent and is still a good batsmen, the fans don't need any milking to be gullible anyway..
And yea, we're all gullible, but in terms of effort, Tendulkar still gives it his all. That fatty at the top of the order...does not.silentstriker said:His form means he is not a good batsman at this stage. Averaging in the twenties over a period of 9 tests is not acceptable, especially for him.
Yes the body does not remain the same. However, it is not necessary that it means a player will become poorer. Courtney Walsh played 16 years of test cricket and he had great years at the end. He moulded his game. Also, a fast bowler's body takes a lot more toll than a batsman's. We cannot say because player x has played so many years, his game will necessarily deteriorate. The game of a player changes over the years but it is not the same thing to 'it has become worse'.Dravid said:Your body wears down.
No, it doesn't have to. But remember, he started very early - before his body had a chance to fully develop yet.Pratyush said:Yes the body does not remain the same. However, it is not necessary that it means a player will become poorer. Courtney Walsh played 16 years of test cricket and he had great years at the end. He moulded his game. Also, a fast bowler's body takes a lot more toll than a batsman's. We cannot say because player x has played so many years, his game will necessarily deteriorate. The game of a player changes over the years but it is not the same thing to 'it has become worse'.