***Official*** India in South Africa

[Anil]

an incredible day's cricket for india and they have done it so far without any help from rahul dravid! wouldn't have believed it possible!

 

[silentstriker]

an incredible day's cricket for india and they have done it so far without any help from rahul dravid! wouldn't have believed it possible!

Yea, though Kumble pitched in with 2/2, Rahul didn't really score any. Its a good thing actually, as we are just overly dependent on him. Its good to see others picking up the slack.

 

[Dravid]

Yea, though Kumble pitched in with 2/2, Rahul didn't really score any. Its a good thing actually, as we are just overly dependent on him. Its good to see others picking up the slack.

He scored 32 in the first inning.

This is how I base my view on runs

>20 but <than 30 runs= Okay, or whatever kind of performance
>30 runs= decent performance
>40 runs= good performance
>50 runs= great performance
>100 runs=excellent performance.

 

[silentstriker]

He scored 32 in the first inning.

This is how I base my view on runs

>20 but <than 30 runs= Okay, or whatever kind of performance
>30 runs= decent performance
>40 runs= good performance
>50 runs= great performance
>100 runs=excellent performance.

I don't by that type of rating, it depends on the match situation, the pitch, and the bowling. Its possible that a 40 or 50 can be much more valuable as well as a more excellent example of batting than a 100.

 

[Anil]

He scored 32 in the first inning.

This is how I base my view on runs

>20 but <than 30 runs= Okay, or whatever kind of performance
>30 runs= decent performance
>40 runs= good performance
>50 runs= great performance
>100 runs=excellent performance.

you cannot take any number of runs in isolation and really put it in a slot like that, there are contexts that would determine what kind of performance it was, because it has been a low-scoring match, his 32 was actually a pretty good score but was only the third highest score in the indian 1st innings and he just scored 1 in the 2nd, that's not what we are used to seeing from dravid especially in tough situations, in this case, as ss commented, it's good to see that others have picked up the slack....

 

[Dravid]

you cannot take any number of runs in isolation and really put it in a slot like that, there are contexts that would determine what kind of performance it was, because it has been a low-scoring match, his 32 was actually a pretty good score but was only the third highest score in the indian 1st innings and he just scored 1 in the 2nd, that's not what we are used to seeing from dravid especially in tough situations, in this case, as ss commented, it's good to see that others have picked up the slack....

I know, but I'm taking out the pitch conditions and everything. Even on a good batting pitch, 30 odd is not bad. That's what I start from on basing a performance, and then move towards the pitch and bowling.

 

[Jono]

India have dropped from $6.50 to $6 to win the test on Bet365.

SA firm favourites going at $1.50 and the draw at $3.50.

India have now dropped to $1.25

Just about the most satisfying bet I've ever made. Gives credit to those who think having a punt on the underdog most of the time does work.

Hopefully India can keep going and win their first ever test in South Africa.

 

[marc71178]

Just about the most satisfying bet I've ever made. Gives credit to those who think having a punt on the underdog most of the time does work.

Fair enough - odds like that are often worth a punt in a 2 horse race.

I remeber the last Ashes tour England were quoted at 10-1 to win the 5th Test when McGrath and Warne were both injured (and England had put up a pretty good effort at the back end of the 4th Test thanks to Caddick and Harmo)

I went with the 10-1 for that game and of course it came in.

Bizarre game that though in that Caddick took his first 10wm and never played again - must be some sort of record that!

 

[Jono]

Haha good bet indeed.

Yeah that game is bizarre for a few reasons. Caddick never playing again, and the fact that that match is so fondly remembered for Steve Waugh's ton by Australian cricket fans, its almost forgotten by some that Australia lost that match.

 

[Salamuddin]

I'm not surprised at what's happened --- the Indian bowlers had caused a fair few problems for the Saffies during the ODIs but this was glossed over due to the ineptitude of the Indian batsmen.

It was always on the cards that if INdia could bat decently --- they'd be in with a big chance.

They should win this game as long as long as they are not complacent ....

 

[adharcric]

Really hope Laxman goes on for a big one here. Dhoni also needs to prove his temperament in tests.

 

[silentstriker]

Really hope Laxman goes on for a big one here. Dhoni also needs to prove his temperament in tests.

Oh no, what do you have there for your sig? An Indian pace bowler? UGGGHHHH.

I tell you what, if he averages less than 20 for the series, I'll change my sig to his for a month, but if he doesn't, then you've got to change yours to GM.

 

[silentstriker]

With that said, today he deserves it. Bowled beautifully and bowled in tandem.

 

[adharcric]

Oh no, what do you have there for your sig? An Indian pace bowler? UGGGHHHH.

I tell you what, if he averages less than 20 for the series, I'll change my sig to his for a month, but if he doesn't, then you've got to change yours to GM.

That's not fair. Even McGrath doesn't average 20 over his career. How about this?

If he averages under 20, you change it to an Indian pace bowler of my choice. If he averages over 30 (or 35?, since that's how bad you think Indian seamers are and 27.5 is about par for a seamer), I change it to McGrath.

Also, if Sreesanth leads India to a victory in this test match, I think you owe the Indian pace attack and it's supporters a paragraph of apology and acknowledgment.

 

[silentstriker]

No, I changed my mind. He deserves it.

 

[adharcric]

Good man. My hatred for you has just dissolved. Welcome to the select group of respected posters.

I still want that paragraph of apology and acknowledgment if Sreesanth leads India to an overseas victory though. Fair enough?

 

[Turbinator]

That's not fair. Even McGrath doesn't average 20 over his career. How about this?

If he averages under 20, you change it to an Indian pace bowler of my choice. If he averages over 30 (or 35?, since that's how bad you think Indian seamers are and 27.5 is about par for a seamer), I change it to McGrath.

Also, if Sreesanth leads India to a victory in this test match, I think you owe the Indian pace attack and it's supporters a paragraph of apology and acknowledgment.

Boy would I love that or what... SS bowing down to the Indian pace attack 2 times in 1month!

 

[Turbinator]

HAHAAHHAHAHA

My hatred has disolved as well... I love you SS!!!

 

[Turbinator]

You know what I'll change mine too!!

 

[silentstriker]

Good man. My hatred for you has just dissolved. Welcome to the select group of respected posters.

Don't get too carried away. That was the best pace bowling performance I've seen from an Indian in a long time, so he gets his due. He hasn't yet kept it up for a single game, let alone a series.

I still want that paragraph of apology and acknowledgment if Sreesanth leads India to an overseas victory though. Fair enough?

I will acknowledge if he leads them to a win, but no apology unless there is a series victory in which they bowl consistently well.