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***Official*** India in Pakistan

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
danish said:
Actually, to an extent that does explain it. I noticed that almost everyone who commented on Tendulkar's decision to walk is Indian. Not that they have the extreme attitudes that are described by Sanz, I think that a very small part of what he said is true.
you will find that the one with the most extreme attitude is the accuser himself....:yes:
 

JustTool

State 12th Man
Still Kapil has a whole lot more class than that imbecile Shoab who bwols a beamer and does not even have the courtsey to apologize. And Afridi - all he was doing was mouthing off even more than Shoaib.

Really shameful what Shoaib did. If Brett Lee wasn't from Australia both these guys would be relegated to where they belong: Chuckers. :@


onemangang said:
Kapil is an idiot, he never shy away from mouthing his mouth off. Whats the point of saying that Afridi looks out of place?? Afridi has been going great guns lately and to discredit him by saying that he might be scoring but he looks out of place whereas Dhoni doesn't look out of place is plain dumb and hilarious.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Anil said:
you will find that the one with the most extreme attitude is the accuser himself....:yes:
What extreme attitude...3 quick wickets had gone, India still needed about 200 odd runs with its most experienced batsman still batting with a rookie wicket keeper..what does the GOD do well no marks for guessing ? On the other hand The rookie combines with another rookie and saves the follow on while the GOD is warming the chair in the dressing room.

Media and GOD fanatics, instead of recognizing the effort of two young kids, spend their day questioning the God's decision to walk. Yeah man you guys know more than him...God was silly to walk...Next time we should show him a replay before he starts walking, so that he can decide.:laugh: :laugh:
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
IRFAN PATHAN

- A batting average of 47.0 in his last 7 test matches (376 runs in 8 innings)
- with two nineties, one eighty odd and a fifty besides a useful 27 and another 32 in 8 innings.

- How does it matter if we consider him a pure bowler and not an all rounder ? Its good enough for India.
We wont exchange him for Abdul Razzaq and I thought he was some sort of an all rounder.

MAHENDRA DHONI

- A test batting average of 58.6
- A strike rate of 91.0
- Innings of 30, 5 & 51, 49 & 14 and 144 in the only 4 tests in which he has batted.

Besides...

- An average in one dayers of 45.7
- A strike rate of 103.6

Who cares if we think Adam Gilchrist is better than him? He will jolly well do for India.

We wont exchange him for Kamran Akmal and he can bat, right ?
 
JustTool said:
Still Kapil has a whole lot more class than that imbecile Shoab who bwols a beamer and does not even have the courtsey to apologize. And Afridi - all he was doing was mouthing off even more than Shoaib.

Really shameful what Shoaib did. If Brett Lee wasn't from Australia both these guys would be relegated to where they belong: Chuckers. :@
Neither is Lee a chucker nor is Akhtar one, even someone as disgraceful as Kapil wouldn't go to that extent!
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
I had posted this after day 2 when not many were considering India to have much chance in the match -

Pratyush said:
India has around 110. At 3 and half runs per over then can reach 425. Accelarting tomorrow, they can reach the score of Pakistan. Then a performance by Kumble and Harbhajan (provided the pitch provides support) can lead to a change in scenario.

India may have to chase around 200-250 in the last 2 sessions or so. Could be a mouth watering prospect.

On the other hand the Indian batting can collapse and we can see a Pakistan victory.

There is a lot to unfold still in this match. :)
It will be very interesting to see how Kumble and Harbhajan perform now.
 

nehrafan

Banned
Pratyush said:
I had posted this after day 2 when not many were considering India to have much chance in the match -



It will be very interesting to see how Kumble and Harbhajan perform now.
Their task will be a lot easier as they have to get just 9 players out.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Sanz said:
I wonder what happened to 'I dont include records against minnows' slogan ?
If you don't know what you're talking about, don't speak. All of Pathan's and Dhoni's big scores have come against competitive teams (ie pak, sl). That minnow deal only applies to the loads of wickets Pathan picked up against Zimbabwe.
 

nehrafan

Banned
Dhoni is one another player among the growing list of Indian players who *loves to face Pak bowlers*.. others being Dravid, Tendulkar and SEHWAG.

Dhoni scored his first OD ton against Pak, and yesterday he scored his first test ton against Pak:p

Looks to me that ,most Indian batters can't resist to take on Pak pace attack.....a.p.a.r.t!
 

pug

U19 Vice-Captain
onemangang said:
I think India should go into Karachi match with 6 batters (as the wkt over there might not be a dead track) and 4 bowlers.I would personally like to see Pathan dropped and Ajit replacing him.
Do you know how the pitch is going to be in Karachi? Because that will be the main factr influencing the combination. And anyway, I don't see the logic in dropping Pathan at all, and even less in replacing him for Agarkar.
 

pug

U19 Vice-Captain
Pratyush said:
I had posted this after day 2 when not many were considering India to have much chance in the match -



It will be very interesting to see how Kumble and Harbhajan perform now.
Harbhajan and Khan first, for batting. Logic would say they should explode and even if they don't overtake the Pakistani score, it shouldn't be a bother as there will still be some time left. What's important is whether this Indian bowling lineup can take 8 Pakistani (or 9, depending of whether Inzy comes) wickets, which although not impossible is going to be difficult. However, the pitch is acting up a bit more lately and who knows...

The highlight for me in the remaining day's play is also going to be harbhajan and Kumble's bowling. And Sehwag and (I hope) Dhoni's subsequent opening, if the match reaches that point.
 
pug said:
Do you know how the pitch is going to be in Karachi? Because that will be the main factr influencing the combination. And anyway, I don't see the logic in dropping Pathan at all, and even less in replacing him for Agarkar.
The weather is clear in Karachi and from what i've heard, the pitch has ample grass on it and is suppose to be a lot better than the other ones.Ofcourse if Inzi doesn't play then Pakistan might change their mind and might opt for a batting wkt, just to be safe.

Pathan is totally out of sorts right now, he can be played as an allrounder but as a specialist pacer he doesn't deserve a place in the team.Ajit is not an ideal test bowler, but since we don't have any other option, i would like to have him in the team in place of Pathan
 

adharcric

International Coach
nehrafan said:
Dhoni is one another player among the growing list of Indian players who *loves to face Pak bowlers*.. others being Dravid, Tendulkar and SEHWAG.

Dhoni scored his first OD ton against Pak, and yesterday he scored his first test ton against Pak:p

Looks to me that ,most Indian batters can't resist to take on Pak pace attack.....a.p.a.r.t!
well that's good, but really it's pretty much the same on the other side. Younis Khan, Shahid Afridi, Inzamam, Yousuf, plus we've seen Pak players rediscover form in the past when facing India
 
SJS said:
IRFAN PATHAN

- A batting average of 47.0 in his last 7 test matches (376 runs in 8 innings)
- with two nineties, one eighty odd and a fifty besides a useful 27 and another 32 in 8 innings.

- How does it matter if we consider him a pure bowler and not an all rounder ? Its good enough for India.
We wont exchange him for Abdul Razzaq and I thought he was some sort of an all rounder.

MAHENDRA DHONI

- A test batting average of 58.6
- A strike rate of 91.0
- Innings of 30, 5 & 51, 49 & 14 and 144 in the only 4 tests in which he has batted.

Besides...

- An average in one dayers of 45.7
- A strike rate of 103.6

Who cares if we think Adam Gilchrist is better than him? He will jolly well do for India.

We wont exchange him for Kamran Akmal and he can bat, right ?

All i care is to see them maintaining their averages while playing outside sub-continent!
 

pug

U19 Vice-Captain
onemangang said:
The weather is clear in Karachi and from what i've heard, the pitch has ample grass on it and is suppose to be a lot better than the other ones.Ofcourse if Inzi doesn't play then Pakistan might change their mind and might opt for a batting wkt, just to be safe.

Pathan is totally out of sorts right now, he can be played as an allrounder but as a specialist pacer he doesn't deserve a place in the team.Ajit is not an ideal test bowler, but since we don't have any other option, i would like to have him in the team in place of Pathan
I'm not an expert on pitch preparations but I would assume it takes longer than this to make a total change in the pitch conditions. Anyway, a dead pitch will be worse for Pakistan than India. It negates whatever advantages that their bowling attack has by giving that much support to India's superior batting line up.

Pathan wasn't that much worse than Agarkar in the first match. And with his 90 now, he will have more confidence. I don't see the point of returning dinosaurs back to the team. Besides, if you are playing 4 bowlers only that would mean you're removing another medium pacer?? So you suggest removing Pathan and another bowler to get in Agarkar? :huh:
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
onemangang said:
I think India should go into Karachi match with 6 batters (as the wkt over there might not be a dead track) and 4 bowlers.I would personally like to see Pathan dropped and Ajit replacing him.
If they do that, which other bowler would be dropped for the batsman?
 
pug said:
Pathan wasn't that much worse than Agarkar in the first match. And with his 90 now, he will have more confidence. I don't see the point of returning dinosaurs back to the team. Besides, if you are playing 4 bowlers only that would mean you're removing another medium pacer?? So you suggest removing Pathan and another bowler to get in Agarkar? :huh:
I the pitch for the last match happen to be dead one again, then i would like India to go into the match with 5 bowlers in order to get 20 Pak wkts.However if the pitch has some life in it, then i think India will be better off player 6 batsmen.
 

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