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***Official*** India in Pakistan
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Prince EWS
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Yeah, and if you replace Salman Butt with Saqlain Mushtaq, the Pakistan attack is far better. It doesnt mean anything though really, because it didnt happen....
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
In that case, it's not a bad idea to play him. However, if you have to play him at all, it should be because he's good enough to make the team on his batting, and not because the team needs more batsmen, so they pick every extra under the sun. Ganguly may have had some value addition before the series, but while all the strike bowlers (not sure if the eighth drawf missing from that fairy tale is one) were struggling and bowled over 30 overs each, he bowled just six. Frankly, neither deserve to be in the team at present, and Ganguly, a lot less. Come to think of it, a seam attack of Zaheer/Irfan/RPS and both spinners will do just fine.pug said:
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I actually really hope Ganguly isn't dropped this match. This will be worse than him being dropped for the 3rd test against SL because this one would make no sense. If you really want to get rid of Ganguly, wait for a series of failures, say 2 straight tests. If it doesn't come, well then he's keeping himself in the side.
You can't drop Ganguly for the next test considering he didn't bat at all for the 5 days, bowled tightly and took a catch. He has to actually fail first.
You can't drop Ganguly for the next test considering he didn't bat at all for the 5 days, bowled tightly and took a catch. He has to actually fail first.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
This isnt new, its not going to stop and it comes from both sides in all Indo Pak threads on all sites on the world-wide web. It is the tragedy of Indo-Pak relations.Fusion said:
But there are enough good people on both sides who can be engaged in extremely amenable discussions.
All you need to do is
- recognise the trolls early (its the easiest thing in the world)
- ignore them, continue as if they didnt exist, better still - put them on your ignore list and be rid of them and their worthless posts.
Why do you people give them so much importance. They are not even worth wasting your time condemning let alone trying to engage in a debate.
Tony Blade
U19 Cricketer
But its so entertaining!SJS said:
GladiatrsInBlue
Banned
I hope this time around there won't be another dead track at Faisalabad, Pakistan should show some guts and should prepare a lively pitch for the second test match.
FRom team India i would like to see one change, Z khan commin in place of Ajit.
Pak should drop useless Sami and bring in promissing M Asif.
My prediction... If the pitch is sporting and the weather isn't bad then India will crush Pakistan into second test match!
If the pitch is dead then either it will be a draw or India might just beat Pakistan (if India happen to bat first)
FRom team India i would like to see one change, Z khan commin in place of Ajit.
Pak should drop useless Sami and bring in promissing M Asif.
My prediction... If the pitch is sporting and the weather isn't bad then India will crush Pakistan into second test match!
If the pitch is dead then either it will be a draw or India might just beat Pakistan (if India happen to bat first)
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Wikipedia is not necessarily a reliable source of information - I've heard it described as the encyclopedia written by idiots for idiots.Pratyush said:
I was trying to substantiate the information.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Can you please explain to me how that necessarily becomes the case?Pratyush said:So Hakon is an idiot.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
That's as good– or bad– as saying that you shouldn't drop someone who has contributed ZILCH and won't be expected to do much, simply because he did nothing wrong. It's like saying there's nothing wrong with the bicycle, so it's the best means of transport, even if it lacks value addition.
There are a few ways to look at this. If Ganguly is replaced by another batsman, this decision (although the right one) will haunt Indian cricket in the days to come, because "he wasn't given a chance to prove himself". If he is replaced by a bowler, it will still haunt Indian cricket in the days to come because "Yuvraj didn't contribute anything either". Interestingly, I'm okay with any scenario now. Just curious to see what happensArjun said:
Interesting to see how the Faisalabad pitch will behave.
Rahul Dravid also smiled when asked for his thoughts. "It was slightly different from Lahore. A bit more grass on it and it may change as the game goes on." Michael Holding bellowed (although that might be because he was asked whether he would pull a muscle on this pitch as he had joked of the Lahore strip) and said, "This is a pitch for the beautiful batsmen." Yesterday, Bob Woolmer couldn't conceal a smirk when he said it looked a little better. In the Indian camp, one bowler simply laughed when asked whether he would get more joy from this pitch. Bowlers, it looks likely, might need some sympathy tomorrow.
http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/pakvind/content/story/233799.html
Oh well... lets hope for a miracle.
Rahul Dravid also smiled when asked for his thoughts. "It was slightly different from Lahore. A bit more grass on it and it may change as the game goes on." Michael Holding bellowed (although that might be because he was asked whether he would pull a muscle on this pitch as he had joked of the Lahore strip) and said, "This is a pitch for the beautiful batsmen." Yesterday, Bob Woolmer couldn't conceal a smirk when he said it looked a little better. In the Indian camp, one bowler simply laughed when asked whether he would get more joy from this pitch. Bowlers, it looks likely, might need some sympathy tomorrow.
http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/pakvind/content/story/233799.html
Oh well... lets hope for a miracle.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
In that case, why not have one Munaf Patel in the team in place of Ganguly and Yuvraj? Not only is he decently fast and also more than a few inches taller than Agarkar (and a lot better built), he's also a good hard hitter of the ball. You can get more runs from positions seven, eight and the rest, and you get that extra wicket.pug said:
One can always hope......and the selectors have a chance to make up for their mistake in the forthcoming series against England. Here's an opportunity and they just let it go.
Munaf Patel is not in context for this series and is in no way a solution to any problem right now. Of course, it would have been better to go on all along with a 5 bowler, 5 batsmen, 1 wk lineup but why must you bring in the issue of Munaf Patel now since it will not be happening? Well, you can hope he will be sent to join the team for the third test, but I'm afraid you'll only be dissapointed.Arjun said:
My point is whatever change is made with the lineup, it should be made for the right reasons. Replacing Yuvraj to get in a bowler while ganguly remains in the side as a middle order batsman is fundamentally wrong in my opinion as it gives the statement that Ganguly deserves a place as a batsman before Yuvraj. But since Ganguly's got to make his final statement, I'll grant him that much (anyway, doesn't matter if I grant or not since the team management most likely will).
