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***Official*** India in Pakistan

Scweej

Scweej

Cricket Spectator
If we are comparing just the pace attacks of Pak v Ind then:

Mohammed Sami and Agit Agarker pretty much cancel each other out.

Mat W Ave
Sami 25 65 46.7
Agark 26 58 47.3

Both not test-quality, Umar Gul and M Patel, respectively could have been more useful.

Naved-ul-Hasan is a similar type of bowler to Irfan Pathan, and looking at the stats Pathan seems more consistent . . . Altho he has taken a lot of wickets against minor opposition.

Shoaib Ahktar is a class bowler when in form and merely good when not .. .

India's 3rd seamer being Ganguly, and most top batsmen would be embarassed if they were dismissed by him . ..

Looking at the spin

Kumble is the level Kaneria will be trying to reach in a few years time .. .
Harbajhan has more variety and penetration than Afridi . ..
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
ajaagarkarajaaja said:
BCCI should reinforce Indian team by sending out the inform express fast bowler "Munaf Patel" to Pak to join the squad.

This Indian team need an express fast bowler to demolish Pakistan team, either Munaf or VRV singh should be send to Pak a.s.a.p with the mission being "Demolish Pak batsmen"
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Fast bowlers are not exactly running through Indian batting on this track are they ?
 
luckyeddie

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
SJS said:
Fast bowlers are not exactly running through Indian batting on this track are they ?
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Even I might grudgingly admit that a positive result is unlikely now.

AA to come in and score the fastest century in test cricket?
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
luckyeddie said:
Even I might grudgingly admit that a positive result is unlikely now.
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And what would make you think its still possible.

BTW just a stat Holding pointed out - bowlers have taken only 5 wickets in whatever play has been possible.
 
luckyeddie

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Pratyush said:
And what would make you think its still possible.
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I said on day 1 that there was a good chance of a Pakistan victory, that they would declare after reaching 650 or so and putting India in around tea on day 2 (got those bits pretty well spot on).

That's all I was referring to.
 
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yohanna

Banned
Ganguly should really had opened for India in this test match, can't see him failing on this track even though his confidence might be a bit low.
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Sehwag was asked by Dean Jones about the 20 boundaries in his 96 and so few runs actually run. Sehwag said Pakistan had placed so many fielders to stop his singles it was easy for him to hit boundaries.

Spot on.

Its a reflection of Inzy's inflexible strategies. Having decided that 679 runs allowed him to attack the batsman he just attacked with all he had with very few fielders blocking boundaries. In the case of Sehwag, cutting down his boundaries and placing fielders to take the somewhat airy drives would have been much more likely to get him a wicket besides keeping the batsmen away from the kind of confidence they now have.
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
yohanna said:
Ganguly should really had opened for India in this test match, can't see him failing on this track even though his confidence might be a bit low.
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I am not so sure.

Some of those deliveries that went whisling past Sehwag's nose as he winced or hit his 'periscope' of a bat as he held it up while ducking OR the many that Dravid blocked up on his toes from in front of his face, could have blown away our Saurav.

Yes, if he had survived the initial onslaught he would have scored later but with the many interruptions, Shoaib remained fresh for a very long time bowling his 15 overs out of the first 20 froim one end. I dont think Ganguly, even on this wicket would have found him easy to fend.

Shoaib hasnt got wickets but he did bowl some real snorters. And India had to have the best persons (in the 11) to tackle them. Ganguly is not one of them.

The opening slot on a dead track is not to be handed out to out of form batsmen to get them back in form. Test matches are serious business and facing 679 runs with more than three days to go is DEADLY SERIOUS business.

I did say Ganguly should be sent in to open but that was because I was furious that he had been taken in the side at the cost of the openers. But the skipper had to do what HE thought gave his side the best chance to make a fist of it and he did exactly that.

This is not about Ganguly...its about India.
 
Scweej

Scweej

Cricket Spectator
interesting point . . but ur suggesting that its easier for Sehwag to hit boundaries than take singles. ..Cutting off the singles and forcing him to take risks was a reasonable tactic given the lifeless pitch and fairly ineffective bowling .

In pitches like this, wickets are taken by pressure from the fielding side in addition with batsmans mistakes. .
 
Dissector

Dissector

International Debutant
Deano mentioned the record a bit earlier. If they do it I will have mixed feelings. Mankad is one of the greats of early Indian cricket and the Mankad-Roy record must be one of the very few by India in that period that are still standing. Still Sehwag and Dravid are worthy holders even though Dravid isn't a regular opener.

Speaking of records Sehwag almost got out on 199 ; I imagine that would have been the first time two batsmen did that in the same test match. Of course he was probably a bit lucky not to be given out caught behind to Kaneria; I thought it was out both on first sight and after the replays. Snickometer would have settled the issue if it had been available.
 
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luckyeddie

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
JustTool said:
OK - I'll bet you the crowd doesn't go over 35. PCB should be ashamed of themselves..
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The grounds were quite full when England were playing.

I guess that could be taken two ways -

a) Pakistan have less chance of victory against India
b) India are less interesting
 
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