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***Official*** India in Pakistan

SpaceMonkey

International Debutant
Fusion said:
Congrats to Viru for a fine century. One of these days, Pakistan will figure out how to get him out (and India will do the same with Yunis!). :p
Not playing on roads might be a good start :)
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
SpaceMonkey said:
Not playing on roads might be a good start :)
I get your point, but I don't think the pitch has that much to do with it. I think Yunis/Sehwag just somehow excell when playing against these two respective teams.
 

JustTool

State 12th Man
Only in cricket

Cricket may be the ONLY sport where teams travel long distances to have 5-day events scheduled in knowingly bad weather (Chennai in India against SA earlier and now Lahore), on completely DEAD tracks so that everyone can pay to watch on TV and then sit around being annoyed. And then do it again, And again. :cool:

James90 said:
This must be the most annoying test ever.
 

Scweej

Cricket Spectator
Fusion said:
I get your point, but I don't think the pitch has that much to do with it. I think Yunis/Sehwag just somehow excell when playing against these two respective teams.
Younis Khan and Virendar Sehwag do have extraordinary records against India and Pakistan respectively. However when 4 batsman score hundreds in the one innings, and over 400 hundred runs were scored in 1shortened day (day 2) the quality of the pitch must be questioned. . .
 

JustTool

State 12th Man
What a surprise then that there are almost ZERO spectators in a country that has the most fanatical following next to India. There must be some way for all us fans to get even with the ICC, PCB and BCCI - a bunch of complete MORONS (as stated more eloquently by Ian Chapell and Imran Khan often in the past) :@

Scweej said:
Younis Khan and Virendar Sehwag do have extraordinary records against India and Pakistan respectively. However when 4 batsman score hundreds in the one innings, and over 400 hundred runs were scored in 1shortened day (day 2) the quality of the pitch must be questioned. . .
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
James90 said:
This must be the most annoying test ever.
My personal favourite for that would be a Newzealand India test from 95-96 followed closely by a match in New Zealand during India's subsequent tour in the annoying category.. Both fairly affected by rain if I remember correctly.
 
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Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Ramiz Raja : This weather is chilly.
Sivaramakrishnan : Its very chilly. I have been freezing all morning!
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Fusion said:
??? I'm not following the game on TV so I don't get it?
Danish bowls it, Sehwag hits it straight back to Kaneria. In frustration, he throws it at the stumps, misses (as does Akmal) and the ball races to the boundary.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Mecnun said:
I think Mudasser has hit the nail on the head. I guess Pak wanted to blunt out the Indian seamers and rely on Shoaib/Rana heroics on a lifeless pitch, but bowlers cannot perform heroics every match. I also think this pitch is not going to turn or crumble.
Today, Imran confirmed the opinion of Mudassar by saying exactly the same thing on the Ten Sports programme.
 

nehrafan

Banned
SJS said:
Difficult to say beta. Pakistan has the better (deeper and more balanced) bowling so inspite of India's strong batting line up, I am afraid they may have a slightly better chance of taking the 20 wickets necessary to win a test.
Well their so called "mighty attack" have so far not able to take a single wkt in 2 days.

India are 180-0........... hopefully Sehwag will get a double ton in this test match :)
 

nehrafan

Banned
Mecnun said:
I think Mudasser has hit the nail on the head. I guess Pak wanted to blunt out the Indian seamers and rely on Shoaib/Rana heroics on a lifeless pitch, but bowlers cannot perform heroics every match. I also think this pitch is not going to turn or crumble.
Something i said long back, Pak feels threatened by Pathan and just don't like to face him on responsive tracks.

Unless Pak change their cowardly approack towards the game, their cricketing skill will never improve.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
nehrafan said:
hopefully Sehwag will get a double ton in this test match :)
I hope he gets another triple :D

But I maintain the Pak attack is better. Shoaib does make a difference. Of the first 39 overs, he has bowled 15 (out of a maximum possible of 20) from one ned and conceded 45 runs. Can you imagine what the run rate would have been if he wasnt there.

Also can you imagine what Sehwag would do to Agarkar :p

Facing the Indian attack even Dravid may have been scoring at 60-65 runs per 100 balls on this wicket.

Our being 180 not out does not make our bowling attack better. If Pakistan could have scored better than 679 for 7 at that rate against their own attack, that would settle the argument :)
 

nehrafan

Banned
Chappel's comment on the pitch!

Chappell said that he had actually expected this sort of a track. ‘‘They wanted to make sure it would be hard for us to bowl them out twice’’, he speculated. Pakistan’s fast bowlers, after all, rely less on the surface than India’s do to work up pace.

But that’s a finesse that can go beyond the skills of the best of curators. It’s best to let Shahid Afridi have the last say about Lahore: ‘‘Yeh theek thak dead wicket hai.’’
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
nehrafan said:
Something i said long back, Pak feels threatened by Pathan and just don't like to face him on responsive tracks.

Unless Pak change their cowardly approack towards the game, their cricketing skill will never improve.
I guess Pak beat Englang by sheer luck right? And last year in India, Pak had a draw in the Test series and then beat Ind in ODI's comprehensively because Indian players had thrown the matches. Because obviously, their "cowardly" tactics prevent them from ever improving their skills.
By the way, when you type your posts, are you really going for high comedy or do you actually believe what you're spewing?
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
What a contrast Dravid's innings is from Sehwag/Afridi/Akmal's. Call me crazy, but I am equally amazed by his innings as I am of the other three. He's allways been one of my favorite batsman.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Fusion said:
What a contrast Dravid's innings is from Sehwag/Afridi/Akmal's. Call me crazy, but I am equally amazed by his innings as I am of the other three. He's allways been one of my favorite batsman.
Absolutely.

I havent watched anything today but seeing him play Shoaib's snorters off the backfoot and dropping the ball dead onto his feet from in front of his face, with both feet in the air, was, for me at leat, much more exciting than seeing Sehwag slam those ferocious cuts.

You could just see his batting against the best bowling in the world on this great new ultra slow motion and make a cricket coaching manual out of it.

Fantastic stuff.
 
Considering that Pak and Indian cricket board are talking about taking measures to keep interest of viewers in the Indo_pak series, i would suggest following measures.

--- The pitches in Pak should be prepared by Indian curators as Pak curators have failed big time in doing the job.

OR

--- All the six test matches should be held in India, while Pakistan should be allowed to hold 3 ODI even on dead pitches.
 

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