***Official*** India in Pakistan

[cricketboy29]

I seem to remeber he was out bowled once in one of the recent series, quicker ball, around the wicket into inzi's off stump.

 

[Jono]

I think it is very silly too. I can think of the arhuement they may have though not a justification according to me.

India may feel very confident if they were chasing and are planning the supersub situation in case this happy situation (India fielding first) does not come about. Then they think India is vulnerable trying to defend the score irrespective of how large it is and thus Zaheer to bolster the bowling in such a case.

My argument against this is, of course, that even as a bowler, I would prefer Powar but the team management doesnt, obviously.

There is a small possibility that they are giving Zaheer every opportunity before the inevitable axe that may come at the end of this tour. They had dropped him earlier and there was a big clamour to bring him back due to "form-on-the-domestic-circuit" (always the most dubious criteria for judging form in India). They may be wanting to make sure that when they drop him this time, all the yuppy selectors working for Indian media do not have any legs to stand on. No arms to crawl on either - in fact.

I too got sucked in into Zaheer's domestic form, because it was so good. I definitely wanted Zaheer in over Agarkar in the 1st test against Pakistan, and when AA was dropped for Zaheer in the 2nd I thought it was the right move. Now I think they both need to go from the test team. For the upcoming series against England, Kumble, Harbhjan, Pathan and RP Singh should be the right way to go, with Zaheer and AA out of the picture. The other young and up coming fast bowlers can also compete for spots.

In ODIs, AA is decent so I'm not totally for his axing but I'm pretty sure Zaheer should go. He's definitely far far lower in the pecking order now.

Anyway great bowling effort by India. Pathan, RP Singh and Sreesanth all bowled brilliantly, and Sachin's seam ups have been great. India have managed to work around this 5th bowling option which they never were able to a long time back. Against Australia I do think 5 bowlers will be necessary but until then Sachin (and Sehwag when he's fit) is doing fine.

India should chase this down comfortably, as it sounds like India just bowled absolutely wonderfully rather than the pitch having a say in Pakistan's poor batting effort.

 

[Palvashay]

Ok I don't know about you guys but this was just depressing...
The batting...Well the batting was simply NON-EXISTENT...
This is our third collapse during the ODI'S...
I've got to hand it to the Indians...They really know how to put up a good show...
We've failed on the count of being a team...If you look at India's peformance its a cohesive effort where everyone has a role and is fulfilling it to the T.
*sigh* From being favourites for the World Cup, unless we seriously re-structure our strategy, I'd be surprised if we make it past the first couple of rounds...
Christ, Im in a forum full of Indians =) Fun fun...

 

[SJS]

*whistles* Is afridi being rested or what?

You may not believe this but Shoaib Akhtar gave him a bear hug and broke his ribs !!!

Shoaib is India's Man of the Series !!!

 

[Palvashay]

You may not believe this but Shoaib Akhtar gave him a bear hug and broke his ribs !!!

Shoaib is India's Man of the Series !!!

Yea we Pakistani's enjoy masochism =) Hurting our chances of winning, quite literally.
I don't know how we're going to bowl today...
Pyschologically we've lost...Moreover, theres too much uniformity in our line up...Kaneria should have been thrown in just to break the monotony of the other bowlers...

 

[Arumpnoo]

Well played India, from a Pakistani fan, hearty congras.

 

[SJS]

Ok I don't know about you guys but this was just depressing...
The batting...Well the batting was simply NON-EXISTENT...
This is our third collapse during the ODI'S...
I've got to hand it to the Indians...They really know how to put up a good show...
We've failed on the count of being a team...If you look at India's peformance its a cohesive effort where everyone has a role and is fulfilling it to the T.
*sigh* From being favourites for the World Cup, unless we seriously re-structure our strategy, I'd be surprised if we make it past the first couple of rounds...
Christ, Im in a forum full of Indians =) Fun fun...

Well. There is a right strategy and a wrong strategy. The fact that a wrong strategy works sometimes and under certain conditions makes its proponents and their supporters insist that it was the right one to start with.

Pakistan has been following the wrong one for long and today it "came-to-roost"

Pakistani openers have always been technically suspect inspite of being stroke players. Fortunately, in tests at least, with a line up of Younis, Inzy and MOYO to follow they have met with success. Here in the ODI's they have been flirting with danger and today it finally happened.

Imran is not the only one who thinks Younis, Inzy and MOYO should bat at the top. But Inzy and Woolmer werent listening and Shoaib was getting runs at three. But this isnt about Shoaib Malik. If they want him to go at the top, he can open the innings but at 3, 4 and 5 they should have always had their best batsmen.

I would even have opened with Younis Khan and Inzy at one drop. Whats the point in being one of the best batsmen in world cricket if you are "scared" of batting at one drop

Then with Akmal, Afridi, Razzaq etc to come later they can always ensure a big total. Of course if there is a huge partnership for the first or second wicket and overs are running out with, say, 8 wickets in hand you can always send the Afridi's and Razzaqs at 4 or 5.

To be 29 for 4 in 13 overs means you can forget about bold batting. Thats what happened today. Inzy wouldnt have known what to do, guide the innings and try to defend a total approaching 200 or play faster and put up a better score.

This was a disaster waiting to happen.

Sachin bowling his 9 overs for 27 runs in one continuous spell is ample commentary of how the Pakistani batsmen were strangled not, I assure you (with due regards to Sachin) by unplayable bowling by the pocket-sized genius but by the bad situation in which the early loss of wickets found the team.

India won the last match as much if not more due to Sachin and even Dravid's batting at the top than the great hitting by Dhoni and Yuvraj.

68-4 in the second game, 82 - 4 in the third should have been warning enough. I wonder what they will do after today's fiasco. I am convinced Inzy will refuse to bat at three. More so now since it would mean admitting he was wrong in insisting with his earlier batting order. Inzy is not hte type to admit he was wrong.

 

[Xuhaib]

161 all out.
Well played India you have the series in your pocket.

 

[Xuhaib]

Have to agree with Hussain "R.P singh seems to get bounce from nowhere". This series has unearthed two potential great fast bowlers for the future Asif and R.P Singh.

 

[sheerindianspeed]

Well played India, the result of this match was never in doubt, all i wanted to see was if India would be able to annihilate Pakistan in this match or not.

After a humilating defeat at Multan, Pakistan will suffer another defeat at Karachi and India will win the series 4-1.

 

[Palvashay]

Well. There is a right strategy and a wrong strategy. The fact that a wrong strategy works sometimes and under certain conditions makes its proponents and their supporters insist that it was the right one to start with.

Pakistan has been following the wrong one for long and today it "came-to-roost"

Pakistani openers have always been technically suspect inspite of being stroke players. Fortunately, in tests at least, with a line up of Younis, Inzy and MOYO to follow they have met with success. Here in the ODI's they have been flirting with danger and today it finally happened.

Imran is not the only one who thinks Younis, Inzy and MOYO should bat at the top. But Inzy and Woolmer werent listening and Shoaib was getting runs at three. But this isnt about Shoaib Malik. If they want him to go at the top, he can open the innings but at 3, 4 and 5 they should have always had their best batsmen.

I would even have opened with Younis Khan and Inzy at one drop. Whats the point in being one of the best batsmen in world cricket if you are "scared" of batting at one drop

Then with Akmal, Afridi, Razzaq etc to come later they can always ensure a big total. Of course if there is a huge partnership for the first or second wicket and overs are running out with, say, 8 wickets in hand you can always send the Afridi's and Razzaqs at 4 or 5.

To be 29 for 4 in 13 overs means you can forget about bold batting. Thats what happened today. Inzy wouldnt have known what to do, guide the innings and try to defend a total approaching 200 or play faster and put up a better score.

This was a disaster waiting to happen.

Sachin bowling his 9 overs for 27 runs in one continuous spell is ample commentary of how the Pakistani batsmen were strangled not, I assure you (with due regards to Sachin) by unplayable bowling by the pocket-sized genius but by the bad situation in which the early loss of wickets found the team.

India won the last match as much if not more due to Sachin and even Dravid's batting at the top than the great hitting by Dhoni and Yuvraj.

68-4 in the second game, 82 - 4 in the third should have been warning enough. I wonder what they will do after today's fiasco. I am convinced Inzy will refuse to bat at three. More so now since it would mean admitting he was wrong in insisting with his earlier batting order. Inzy is not hte type to admit he was wrong.

"Its easier to avoid the crisis, rather than playing one." Imran Khan.

Absolutely. I agree with you more or less...We've been coming across as a very overtly cautious and to an extent scared team...And this is sth quite beyond my comprehension, because given that we clinched the series and the first ODI, we should have entered with an aggressive batting line up as opposed to sending the newbies first...India has employed this policy till now, and its been successful. Two collapses should have made Inzi and Woolmer some what wiser as to what needs to be done. Talent isnt the issue here...And its ludicrous to assume that you're going to win on talent alone as cricket's a highly technical game...

Inzi, Younis and Yusuf should all have been up the order for two reasons.

1) They're the best we've got and fine players at that too.
2) By putting Akmal and Butt as openers theres an undue amount of pressure upon both players. Especially Salman Butt as he's been out two consecutive times and those too on ducks. He's under pressure as it is, as he faces competition from Farhat, (as far as remaining on the team is concerned) moreover hes a tad young.

Dravid has manifested his great ability as a captain before in the past. He went and opened for India when required and I think Inzi needs to wake up and take more affirmative action and set an example for the team.

*sigh* Until then. I shall sit and weep.

 

[alternative]

You may not believe this but Shoaib Akhtar gave him a bear hug and broke his ribs !!!

Shoaib is India's Man of the Series !!!

kewl.. too bad, but accidental stuff happens... But they will miss him heavily..

 

[yohanna]

I am convinced Inzy will refuse to bat at three. More so now since it would mean admitting he was wrong in insisting with his earlier batting order. Inzy is not hte type to admit he was wrong.

Inzi has never impressed me as a captain, and the bad thing about him that he's too stubborn and simply refuse to listen to sane elements even when things are going wrong.

As long as Inzi continue to captain the Pak OD team, Pakistan team will suffer.I think its time for a change and Younis Khan should be made the captain.Younis Khan may not be that great a batsman but he's a much smarter skipper

 

[Palvashay]

DUDE...
That...Makes me feel so much better.=D
Go Sami.
Now that the little one/master is of the field, I can breathe easy.

 

[Armadillo]

TENDULKAR GONE! Yet another twist in the tale?

 

[Armadillo]

SheerIndianSpeed, do you realise that your screen name is actually an oxymoron.

 

[vandemataram]

Pakistan really suxs!! Even though i like to see them being beaten by India each and every time, i also wanted some good total to be chased. 161 is not a good total, and as such there won't be much fire works by the batsmen.

Pakistan certainly knows how to play extremely poor cricket.

Losers!

 

[Palvashay]

Pakistan really suxs!! Even though i like to see them being beaten by India each and every time, i also wanted some good total to be chased. 161 is not a good total, and as such there won't be much fire works by the batsmen.

Pakistan certainly knows how to play extremely poor cricket.

Losers!

How about laying off a bit dude?
You're winning anyway...You might as well win with grace instead of getting all jumpy about it.

Apart from that, I dont know if India's losing wickets is abad or good thing, seems to me they get better and better lower down the order lol. =)

 

[jaspalsinghrana]

You may not believe this but Shoaib Akhtar gave him a bear hug and broke his ribs !!!

Shoaib is India's Man of the Series !!!

Or maybe INZI should be the man of the series for being a total COWARD. *quack*

 

[vandemataram]

How about laying off a bit dude?
You're winning anyway...You might as well win with grace instead of getting all jumpy about it.

Apart from that, I dont know if India's losing wickets is abad or good thing, seems to me they get better and better lower down the order lol. =)

We will win with grace, don't worry about that.Just worry about your side not ending up being sore losers!!

I'm just upset at Pakistan for not putting up a decent total on such a good wkt in such a crucial match.A total of 250+ would have yielded more fireworks, its unfortunate that Pakistan can't even rise upto occasion.