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***Official*** India in New Zealand 2020

cnerd123

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Was given a very long rope as opener. Not sure he has anything to complain about.
He should have gotten a longer run as a middle order bat imo

Dropping Rayudu right before the WC was exceptionally cruel too.

Iyer is here to stay but is still early in his career
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I think inexperience does play a factor but my worry with playing Jaddu anywhere below 5 is what we saw today. He just does not have the hitting range. Neesham was going for wide yorkers with point and third man in the circle and a ridiculously short straight boundary either side and 45 degree only a few yards longer. He never even THOUGHT of trying to angle the bat for 2 or 4. If someone can get with him and work on his hitting range around the ground, he can be the ultimate #6 for us, with Pandya to come at 7.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
"fielding leader" LOL. I love me some Southee but wow, I had to laugh at their praise.

In saying that, great spell. He always comes through like Taylor when under pressure, as frustrating as he can be of latter years.
Compared with the verbal bath Neesham got from McMillan, it's quite staggering. Southee has been poor (was outstanding last night) and gets the royal treatment, while Neesham gets slayed by his former coaches. Don't spose we'll ever find out but Jimmy obviously did something to **** Macca and Hesson off in the NZ environment
 

artvandalay

State Vice-Captain
These two losses show the lack of experience and balance in the Indian ODI side. I reckon Dhawan and Rohit opening with guys like Rahane/Rayudu/Dhoni in the middle would have easily completed this chase. Right now it's all on Kohli to deliver under pressure.
tbf jadhavs selection in this team if he isn't going to bowl makes as much sense as chapman's made today for nzl. instead of him if we had any of Pant, Pandey or Gill at that position then we might probably have won. I don't know what Pant has done to piss off the TM tbh. Kohli says on one hand ODIs don't matter right now yet won't drop himself and celebrates like there's no tomorrow after taking bowlers like Kesrick williams to the cleaners, all the while continuing to make harebrained selection choices. i hope this series is the last we see of Thakur, jadhav and dube though i wouldn't hold my breath.
 
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artvandalay

State Vice-Captain
I think inexperience does play a factor but my worry with playing Jaddu anywhere below 5 is what we saw today. He just does not have the hitting range. Neesham was going for wide yorkers with point and third man in the circle and a ridiculously short straight boundary either side and 45 degree only a few yards longer. He never even THOUGHT of trying to angle the bat for 2 or 4. If someone can get with him and work on his hitting range around the ground, he can be the ultimate #6 for us, with Pandya to come at 7.
it is too much to expect this currently of jadeja tbh, that innings in the wc semi was a fluke and sealed his return to the LOI team for the near future unfortunately. we were in this chase only because of saini and not jadeja after going 7 down. Those big hitting days of his are over, the only reason we got him back is because our other spinners/bowlers can't bat to any competent level at all. this is also why kohli keeps playing thakur.
 

nzfan

International Vice-Captain
Good last few overs by Jimmy and Bennett. That's the recent experience of bowling in death in super smash in play. Glad Southee was bowled out. Hopefully this proves beyond Southee should not be bowled at death. The same wide yorkers in the T20s would have done the job too although the lower order mows where as the top order would have known to squeeze behind.

Awesome debut by Jamieson. Shows the NZ A development is doing a very good job, yet another newbie but delivers. We should be thanking India A for developing our players coming to our shores.
 

nzfan

International Vice-Captain
Still it doesn't take away the fact they bungled with sending Ish away to NZ A without having a spin bowling back up for Auckland game. Spinners have consistently done well here. Lucky none of the bowlers had an off day but this could have costed us the game.
 

Kippax

Cricketer Of The Year
Don't spose we'll ever find out but Jimmy obviously did something to **** Macca and Hesson off in the NZ environment
I think it's probably just some time-honoured middle-class and working-class friction, that one with Neesham and the commentators. Working-class people who've risen a little bit above their initial strata like Hesson, McMillan and Doull do feel they can take out their own insecurities pertaining to class by chipping away at the foppish middle-class environmentalist kid for any bungling they see, in a way they will tend to shy away from with a simpleton who grew up on a dairy farm in Waiotira (Southee).
 

Arachnodouche

International Captain
it is too much to expect this currently of jadeja tbh, that innings in the wc semi was a fluke and sealed his return to the LOI team for the near future unfortunately. we were in this chase only because of saini and not jadeja after going 7 down. Those big hitting days of his are over, the only reason we got him back is because our other spinners/bowlers can't bat to any competent level at all. this is also why kohli keeps playing thakur.
Big-hitting Jadeja is the biggest myth in Indian cricket. I mean, he can hit a long one if it's absolutely in his arc and not an inch outside, but any bowler with any kind of awareness can tie him down in knots otherwise.
 

Howsie

International Captain
Compared with the verbal bath Neesham got from McMillan, it's quite staggering. Southee has been poor (was outstanding last night) and gets the royal treatment, while Neesham gets slayed by his former coaches. Don't spose we'll ever find out but Jimmy obviously did something to **** Macca and Hesson off in the NZ environment
It explains a lot though doesn’t it? Southee can be horrendous in one day cricket four five years and seemingly be an automatic pick, hell he’s the captain in 20/20 cricket somehow. Same with Munro and his chances in one day cricket. Luke Ronchi, who only left because he retired (and then got a job as our fielding coach right away, a job which he is obviously terrible at too) Jimmy Neesham on the other hand is dropped time after time

It’s the haves and have nots with this setup and has been for a little while now.
 

Flem274*

123/5
with hesson and neesham i've always wondered if the nerd who grinded his way into the respect of the jocks feels very insecure about the jock who can be a total nerd on a forum and still so hip he gets to do all the youth media stuff.

neesham doesn't exactly pull his punches on social media either, as shown in the sean plunket spray. the tendency to be so open about any opinion makes management types nervous.
 

cnerd123

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Big-hitting Jadeja is the biggest myth in Indian cricket. I mean, he can hit a long one if it's absolutely in his arc and not an inch outside, but any bowler with any kind of awareness can tie him down in knots otherwise.
The big-hitting bowling all-rounder phase of Jadeja is why Indian fans derided him for so long, because he was so bat at constantly hitting big. But this was hardly his fault, he started off as a top order batsman and even played at 4 for RR. Suddenly he was thrust into the finisher role in International Cricket as his first gig and had to learn on the job.

That phase of his career seems to have made him stronger though. Present day Jadeja has found a way to combine a innate ability to occupy the crease and work the ball around with dashes of calculated madness to be a fairly productive lower order batsman capable of scoring at a healthy rate.

Might not be the worst idea to trial him in the middle order actually.
 

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