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***Official*** India in England 2014

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
That was weird. England just took their 5th wicket of the session and I thought 'finally'.
Well, those two had batted for best part of two hours.

Beyond that, there is an increasing pressure on Woakes and Jordan that if they can't take wickets on this surface, they probably have no basis to be playing test cricket.

And, having had them at 8 for 4, anything around 150 is going to look like a decent score. Some bloke on cricinfo was saying that the last three times we had sides 4 down for under 25, we went on to lose the matches, so I was trying to work out when they might have been. SA at Leeds in 2003 sprang to mind. Maybe in SL in 2007 when Hoggard had a golden opening spell?
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Some bloke on cricinfo was saying that the last three times we had sides 4 down for under 25, we went on to lose the matches, so I was trying to work out when they might have been. SA at Leeds in 2003 sprang to mind. Maybe in SL in 2007 when Hoggard had a golden opening spell?
Sky commentators mentioned it too........2002 at Eden Park and 2012 V's Pakistan in Dubai were the others.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Sky commentators mentioned it too........2002 at Eden Park and 2012 V's Pakistan in Dubai were the others.
Ah, Dubai shouldn't have surprised me. I wouldn't have thought about Eden Park at all though; possibly one of their drop-in pitches like in the 1st test in that series.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Ah, Dubai shouldn't have surprised me. I wouldn't have thought about Eden Park at all though; possibly one of their drop-in pitches like in the 1st test in that series.
Just checked and 2007 V's SL wasn't one of them, they were 40 odd for 4..........can't think what the other one would be.
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
Well, those two had batted for best part of two hours.

Beyond that, there is an increasing pressure on Woakes and Jordan that if they can't take wickets on this surface, they probably have no basis to be playing test cricket.

And, having had them at 8 for 4, anything around 150 is going to look like a decent score. Some bloke on cricinfo was saying that the last three times we had sides 4 down for under 25, we went on to lose the matches, so I was trying to work out when they might have been. SA at Leeds in 2003 sprang to mind. Maybe in SL in 2007 when Hoggard had a golden opening spell?
Sky commentators mentioned it too........2002 at Eden Park and 2012 V's Pakistan in Dubai were the others.
Yeah but the stat of 'the last 3 times' or the like is still wrong, because we had SL 25/4 at Edgbaston in 2006 and won.

It's only the last time, in the UAE, where we lost after that

full list here http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...fow_in;template=results;type=fow;view=innings
 
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Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
India were 4-8 and yet Rahane's dismissal was the worst of the session. Unforgivable.

And yeah the wicket fell when I stopped eating biryani
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Just checked and 2007 V's SL wasn't one of them, they were 40 odd for 4..........can't think what the other one would be.
I'm pretty confident about 2003 vs SA at Leeds, which gives us 3 times with Dubai and Eden Park. As someone else said, it isn't the last 3 times though.

Actually, did we have Aus not many for 4 at Perth in 2010/11?
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
I'm pretty confident about 2003 vs SA at Leeds, which gives us 3 times with Dubai and Eden Park. As someone else said, it isn't the last 3 times though.

Actually, did we have Aus not many for 4 at Perth in 2010/11?
I posted the full list fella
 

viriya

International Captain
You could have asked it about Ishant anywhere, tbf.

I'd have Ashwin in the side, don't get me wrong. But I don see him as a panacea, especially away from home.

Some muppet on here during day five of the test said Ashwin had the potential to be the greatest all rounder of all time ffs.
If he figures out how to bowl half-decently away from home and bats like he has already done so far, he most definitely has a solid chance if he goes on to play 100+ tests. Potential being the key word here.
 

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