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***Official*** India in England 2014

Teja.

Teja.

Global Moderator
Haha, bet365 has India and England both at 2.00 and the draw at 15.00. Got India at 6.00 after lunch on the first day so gonna greenbook.
 
karan316

karan316

State Vice-Captain
The remaining part of this game is going to be very interesting,
Will Cook fire?? Will the Indian bowlers fail to complete a game again(from a winning position)?? Has the pitch flattened out?? what role will Jadeja play? Anything can happen from here on. This match feels like heaven after going through the pain of watching the last one.
 
Cabinet96

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
I'm surprised about the reaction to Ashwin not playing. I thought it was pretty acceptable that he'd be dropped overseas due to not once performing.
 
GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
A player isn't more valuable just because there is only one of them

Unless they are a ***y all rounder from the north west

The reason we were so good for that period is because all the guys I named plus the two you named were in prime form together. The only weaknesses were a number six and third seamer, but even then you had Tremlett/Brezza gunning it for a while

@cab
 
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91Jmay

International Coach
Given there isn't a huge deal to split them Jadeja is a much better field so that might make the difference to Fletcher in particular.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Uppercut said:
Since I wasn't following the build-up, is there any reason why Ashwin isn't playing? Is he injured?
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He got dropped for Jadeja in South Africa after he took no wickets in the first Test, South Africa batted 136 second innings overs to save the match and his away average ballooned up to about 70. Jadeja promptly took six wickets in the first innings of the next Test to give himself a run as India's overseas spinner; he hasn't really backed up those efforts so far but Ashwin's away record had become so bad that he'll probably get a little run it from here regardless.
 
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91Jmay

International Coach
GIMH said:
A player isn't more valuable just because there is only one of them

Unless they are a ***y all rounder from the north west

The reason we were so good for that period is because all the guys I named plus the two you named were in prime form together. The only weaknesses were a number six and third seamer, but even then you had Tremlett/Brezza gunning it for a while
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Finn also took plenty of poles even if he was expensive.
 
P

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Cabinet96 said:
Not really. If Cook had a slump than there'd always be Bell, Trott, KP etc. to pick up the slack. Same with either of Broad or Anderson to an extent (less so Anderson but think of Broad in the Ashes). Prior and Swann were the only players in their particular discipline and were arguably the best in the world at that discipline for a while. They were probably the main difference between us and a pre 2012 South Africa as well, who had a few awesome batsman and seamers but Boucher had become average and Paul Harris/Imran Tahir....
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Yeah but the two great away wins (I know the India win came kind of after the peak of the side) were built on Cook scoring a stupid amount of runs.
 
OverratedSanity

OverratedSanity

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Wouldn't surprise me if Cook chose this moment to troll us. We're losing this by 3-4 wickets if things follow the pattern of the last 2 years.
 
Cabinet96

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
GIMH said:
A player isn't more valuable just because there is only one of them

Unless they are a ***y all rounder from the north west

The reason we were so good for that period is because all the guys I named plus the two you named were in prime form together. The only weaknesses were a number six and third seamer, but even then you had Tremlett/Brezza gunning it for a while

@cab
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Nah, come on. We won series really well when Bell and Broad were injured in 2010. That was because we had multiple players performing at world class levels in similar roles. Not sure you can say them being injured had the same impact that Swann not playing or Prior morphing into 2014 Prior would've had.
 
GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Prince EWS said:
He got dropped for Jadeja in South Africa after he took no wickets in the first Test, South Africa batted 136 second innings overs to save the match and his away average ballooned up to about 70. Jadeja promptly took six wickets in the first innings of the next Test to give himself a run as India's overseas spinner; he hasn't really backed up those efforts so far but Ashwin's away record had become so bad that he'll probably get a little run it from here regardless.
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Oh look that the cat dragged in. **** doesn't post all test and then his crush shows up so he's here with an essay. Dire
 
Uppercut

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Prince EWS said:
He got dropped for Jadeja in South Africa after he took no wickets in the first Test, South Africa batted 136 second innings overs to save the match and his away average ballooned up to about 70. Jadeja promptly took six wickets in the first innings of the next Test to give himself a run as India's overseas spinner; he hasn't really backed up those efforts so far but Ashwin's away record had become so bad that he'll probably get a little run it from here regardless.
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Well with Dhoni at 6 there's no reason not to play both. Surely they don't lose a lot of batting by including Ashwin instead of Binny.

Although it might just be that the current selection is a mess for so many reasons that lots of changes would be an improvement, and I'm picking up on a sub-optimal one.
 
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