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*Official* India in Australia Thread
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CDAK
U19 Debutant
that's quite unlikely. Yes,..some extra effort or match saving innings like Laxman-Dravid in Eden garden may be required.gibbsnsmith said:
Zaheer's injury was one of the reasons for india's low bowling performance.( tommorrow's umpiring will also be crucial for India. Already lost chopra and that was a nice wicket to Shep.
). who will get Sachin's wicket? any guess...it's not Brett lee or mcgill ,but Sheps...Anyway , I feel the series is going to be 1-1, well played aussy team.(it's not ur fault that umpires giving/denying some favours).India is not fit enough to win this test now.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
And totally wrong, of course, stupid, asinine too - but don't let that stop you.CDAK said:Koch_cha.. great comment
Tell me this - who would YOU have umpiring - Asoka?
Mike Procter has had to clamp down on the over-exuberant appealing and premature celebration in this game, and with good reason too. Frankly, it's getting beyond a joke.
CDAK
U19 Debutant
Lucky Eddie, Kocha's comment was a relief for me in that frustrated mood. It never means , another umpire would have judged it correctly. If Asoka was there, then India might have been allout by today itself( he is the worstest International umpire I've ever seen). Buckner and Shepherd are/were my fav umpires.Buckner gave an unforgettable blow to all Sachin fans (including me) and Sheph is on his way.( I think, he fully believes Gilly.Gilly is a gentleman cricketer and will appeal only for the legible ones. Even Gilly went for it. So, Sheph was not even having a doubt..)luckyeddie said:
ReallyCrazy
Banned
The umpiring has been substandard throughout the series. And mostly, its been India who are on the receiving end of the umpires' incompetence.
Ponting was out LBW when he was on 20-something to Kumble. Hawkeye confirmed that the ball would have gone on to hit middle and leg. So lets take out 230 runs out of 558...that leaves 328.
Hayden had a close call when he was on 40-something (but lets say he was given the benefit of the doubt since the ball would have just gone on to clip the top of leg stump). But he was out plumb and I dont know how much more plumb it would get, when he was on 90. So lets take out 46 runs out of 328...and that leaves 282.
Some of you guys are saying Steve Waugh got a bad decision but you don't realise that he was actually out the first ball he faced after coming back. But lets not take anything out...Australia are already reeling. I am not even going to talk about Gilchrist's dismissal which should have happened when he was on 6.
Australia's first innings should have really been 282 all out.
Ponting was out LBW when he was on 20-something to Kumble. Hawkeye confirmed that the ball would have gone on to hit middle and leg. So lets take out 230 runs out of 558...that leaves 328.
Hayden had a close call when he was on 40-something (but lets say he was given the benefit of the doubt since the ball would have just gone on to clip the top of leg stump). But he was out plumb and I dont know how much more plumb it would get, when he was on 90. So lets take out 46 runs out of 328...and that leaves 282.
Some of you guys are saying Steve Waugh got a bad decision but you don't realise that he was actually out the first ball he faced after coming back. But lets not take anything out...Australia are already reeling. I am not even going to talk about Gilchrist's dismissal which should have happened when he was on 6.
Australia's first innings should have really been 282 all out.
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marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
For crying out loud, India are behind in this match not because of the umpires, but because a) Australia are a much better side and b) the Indian XI included 2 injured bowlers who've aggravated their injuries mid-game.CDAK said:
Stop trying to pass off the fact that your side isn't actually that good off as being biased umpiring.
Bapu Rao Swami
U19 12th Man
Man of the year!
Ponting points to greatness....
By Scott Heinrich
Ricky Ponting's whirlwind finish to the year should leave nobody in doubt of his place among cricket's all-time great batsmen.
A VERY GOOD YEAR
Test runs: 1,472
Ave: 98; Highest score: 257
100s: 6; 50s: 4
Other: World Cup-winning captain and scored 140 not out in final; Appointed next Test captain of Australia
Thanks to his second double century in successive Tests, Australia are on top at the MCG and back in the series against India.
In a year dominated very much by the willow, competition for batsman of 2003 was fierce.
The honour does not go to Matthew Hayden, though in most years a record Test score of 380 among a haul of 1,259 would be enough.
Nor does it go to South Africa skipper and England-tormentor Graeme Smith, nor Brian Lara, despite a sixth career double ton in Johannesburg recently taking his tally beyond 1,300.
No, 2003 belonged to Ponting, who capped his best year by some distance with a career-high 257 in Melbourne, a knock which took his total to an Australian-record 1,472.
It ranks as the fourth-highest of all-time, but his batting average of 98 remains the most devastating Test cricket has seen since the West Indies' Sir Viv Richards' benchmark of 90 in 1976.
Australia's next Test captain also produced the one-day innings of the year on the biggest stage of all in the World Cup final.
He paced his unbeaten 140 against India with insidious intent, unleashing the most lethal array of pull shots as the death approached.
Many rate Ponting's knock in the World Cup final as the best ever
But it is about far more than runs, for 2003 was when the 29-year-old larrikin from Tasmania finally came of age.
Ability has never been the question, but for much of Ponting's eight-year career consistency eluded him. Towering peaks were too often met by sinking troughs.
He put it down to starting his career out of position at number six, but a technical deficiency against spin and habitual impetuosity early in his innings were as much to blame.
And then there were matters off the field: drinking sprees and altercations in two nightclubs in 1998 led to counselling and obvious doubts over his leadership potential.
His lowest point came in India in 2001, where he was a walking wicket against spinner Harbhajan Singh. Like a rabbit dazzled by headlights, Ponting scored 17 runs in five innings.
It had a profound effect, and Ponting was a damaged, edgy batsman when he travelled to England for the Ashes that year.
I do put a lot down to the fact we are together and we've got such a great relationship
Ponting on wife Rianna
Comfortable against pace, Ponting petulantly tried to fight his way out of the slump. He paid the price, falling cheaply to Darren Gough four times on the bounce.
He finally broke the shackles with a ton at Headingley, but if anything the knock just returned Ponting to where he was before: a great, but flawed talent.
More big scores followed, but so did the misses - until two landmark events changed his life.
Taking over the one-day captaincy from Steve Waugh early in 2002 was followed by his wedding to law student Rianna Cantor.
On present form he appears to be, but the best batsmen in the world for me are still Lara and Tendulkar
From Srinivas Krishnaswamy
Have your say on TMS
Both were like injections of responsibility, Ponting admitting recently that his marriage has given him a new outlook on cricket and life.
"I've grown into myself a little bit, I've matured a lot, I respect my role in cricket a lot more than what I once did," he said.
Batsmen will always go through poor patches, but what is noticeable about Ponting these days is his approach both on and off the field.
The awesome strokeplay is still very much evident, but he is calm at the crease and wise enough now to know that he can get himself out just as easily as the opposition.
Ponting to succeed Waugh
When unveiled as Waugh's Test successor last month, he spoke of lessons learned and more learning to be done.
His wonderfully grown-up innings in Melbourne encapsulates the new Ponting and applied the polish on 12 months of incredible achievement.
Ponting the Test captain will make fascinating viewing, but the signs are good that the one-time delinquent is ready to take the biggest transition in cricket in his stride.
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my personal thoughts are:
:P :P :P
Yes I completely agree .
Even befor ehe scored 257 at MCG I had posted threads saying he is the best bat. Did you know that even befor ehe scored 257, Rahul Dravid went on air and said Punter and Hayden were the best batsmenin the world. To me Punter has the most natural talent, his towering sixes are in a league of their own, however he loses to Lara, Tendulkar and possibly Youhana in terms of technique but at the end of the day runs is what matters and not technique etc. King Viv hardly had any technique or patience, Gary Sobers whom Bradman said was the best cricketer to have played the game didn't have any technique what so ever at all.
Punter has done it against everyone, everywhere, league games, or world cup, ashes, or other tests! He has hit back to back 120+ runs against the best pace attack of the 90's - Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Saqlain, Razzaq etc etc! Wasim has named him as the best player of fast bowling! The mans monster talent has finally reached its peak, ppl may say others are better than him but I don't think so, sports is about the present not the past, I see no logic whatsoever when someone says Lara is better b'coz he hit 501 like a decade ago etc etc - even Lara called Hayden the best bat after he hit 380. I repeat an average of 98 ! wow
However his 257 wasn't better than the 242 at Adelaide - that was a classic.
To me the best innings ever is Punters 140 not out, I rate it better Waugh's 100 in the Ashes and Tendulkar's 98 against Pakistan. His 140 not out showed his ice cold nerves, no sign of anxiety! perfect cricketer!
I think its fair to say Punter has joined the league of present greats like Lara, Tendulkar, Hayden and Waugh!
Ponting points to greatness....
By Scott Heinrich
Ricky Ponting's whirlwind finish to the year should leave nobody in doubt of his place among cricket's all-time great batsmen.
A VERY GOOD YEAR
Test runs: 1,472
Ave: 98; Highest score: 257
100s: 6; 50s: 4
Other: World Cup-winning captain and scored 140 not out in final; Appointed next Test captain of Australia
Thanks to his second double century in successive Tests, Australia are on top at the MCG and back in the series against India.
In a year dominated very much by the willow, competition for batsman of 2003 was fierce.
The honour does not go to Matthew Hayden, though in most years a record Test score of 380 among a haul of 1,259 would be enough.
Nor does it go to South Africa skipper and England-tormentor Graeme Smith, nor Brian Lara, despite a sixth career double ton in Johannesburg recently taking his tally beyond 1,300.
No, 2003 belonged to Ponting, who capped his best year by some distance with a career-high 257 in Melbourne, a knock which took his total to an Australian-record 1,472.
It ranks as the fourth-highest of all-time, but his batting average of 98 remains the most devastating Test cricket has seen since the West Indies' Sir Viv Richards' benchmark of 90 in 1976.
Australia's next Test captain also produced the one-day innings of the year on the biggest stage of all in the World Cup final.
He paced his unbeaten 140 against India with insidious intent, unleashing the most lethal array of pull shots as the death approached.
Many rate Ponting's knock in the World Cup final as the best ever
But it is about far more than runs, for 2003 was when the 29-year-old larrikin from Tasmania finally came of age.
Ability has never been the question, but for much of Ponting's eight-year career consistency eluded him. Towering peaks were too often met by sinking troughs.
He put it down to starting his career out of position at number six, but a technical deficiency against spin and habitual impetuosity early in his innings were as much to blame.
And then there were matters off the field: drinking sprees and altercations in two nightclubs in 1998 led to counselling and obvious doubts over his leadership potential.
His lowest point came in India in 2001, where he was a walking wicket against spinner Harbhajan Singh. Like a rabbit dazzled by headlights, Ponting scored 17 runs in five innings.
It had a profound effect, and Ponting was a damaged, edgy batsman when he travelled to England for the Ashes that year.
I do put a lot down to the fact we are together and we've got such a great relationship
Ponting on wife Rianna
Comfortable against pace, Ponting petulantly tried to fight his way out of the slump. He paid the price, falling cheaply to Darren Gough four times on the bounce.
He finally broke the shackles with a ton at Headingley, but if anything the knock just returned Ponting to where he was before: a great, but flawed talent.
More big scores followed, but so did the misses - until two landmark events changed his life.
Taking over the one-day captaincy from Steve Waugh early in 2002 was followed by his wedding to law student Rianna Cantor.
On present form he appears to be, but the best batsmen in the world for me are still Lara and Tendulkar
From Srinivas Krishnaswamy
Have your say on TMS
Both were like injections of responsibility, Ponting admitting recently that his marriage has given him a new outlook on cricket and life.
"I've grown into myself a little bit, I've matured a lot, I respect my role in cricket a lot more than what I once did," he said.
Batsmen will always go through poor patches, but what is noticeable about Ponting these days is his approach both on and off the field.
The awesome strokeplay is still very much evident, but he is calm at the crease and wise enough now to know that he can get himself out just as easily as the opposition.
Ponting to succeed Waugh
When unveiled as Waugh's Test successor last month, he spoke of lessons learned and more learning to be done.
His wonderfully grown-up innings in Melbourne encapsulates the new Ponting and applied the polish on 12 months of incredible achievement.
Ponting the Test captain will make fascinating viewing, but the signs are good that the one-time delinquent is ready to take the biggest transition in cricket in his stride.
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my personal thoughts are:
:P :P :P
Yes I completely agree .
Even befor ehe scored 257 at MCG I had posted threads saying he is the best bat. Did you know that even befor ehe scored 257, Rahul Dravid went on air and said Punter and Hayden were the best batsmenin the world. To me Punter has the most natural talent, his towering sixes are in a league of their own, however he loses to Lara, Tendulkar and possibly Youhana in terms of technique but at the end of the day runs is what matters and not technique etc. King Viv hardly had any technique or patience, Gary Sobers whom Bradman said was the best cricketer to have played the game didn't have any technique what so ever at all.
Punter has done it against everyone, everywhere, league games, or world cup, ashes, or other tests! He has hit back to back 120+ runs against the best pace attack of the 90's - Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Saqlain, Razzaq etc etc! Wasim has named him as the best player of fast bowling! The mans monster talent has finally reached its peak, ppl may say others are better than him but I don't think so, sports is about the present not the past, I see no logic whatsoever when someone says Lara is better b'coz he hit 501 like a decade ago etc etc - even Lara called Hayden the best bat after he hit 380. I repeat an average of 98 ! wow
However his 257 wasn't better than the 242 at Adelaide - that was a classic.
To me the best innings ever is Punters 140 not out, I rate it better Waugh's 100 in the Ashes and Tendulkar's 98 against Pakistan. His 140 not out showed his ice cold nerves, no sign of anxiety! perfect cricketer!
I think its fair to say Punter has joined the league of present greats like Lara, Tendulkar, Hayden and Waugh!
CDAK
U19 Debutant
You r seen very much disturbed on the Indian fans' complaint about umpiring. I can say for me that I said it because I felt so.I'm not like somebody who always shout for India's victory even when there's no chance. I personally believe that umpiring was quite harsh to Indian bowling.U might be having a different opinion. Well .... that's ur own ,and can't be mine.marc71178 said:
The injury issue which u mentioned is known to all. Even then, if the umpires had given those ,mentioned in Reallycrazy's post, then it would have been a different story,..no matter who got injured, then.
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Bapu Rao Swami
U19 12th Man
Why is it that we Indians always whine about umpiring, we said that in WC 2003, we always say that for Sahara Cup against Pakistan in Toronto, we say that for Pakistan games in Sharjah..we said that when we lost to Zimbabawe in WC 99...I don't think it would have made a difference, I'mean cmon that Adelaide victory was a fluke! once in a lifetime performance...