*Official* India in Australia Thread

[CDAK]

I always considered Murali( not "dharan") Karthik as a low performer in international cricket(I had mentioned this many times in this forum while others were simply praising him for nothing).He can't do anything in australia.He is predictable, doen't have enough verities, is less spirited.... he never suits to any champion side( is that why he is in INdian team? :!( )

 

[CDAK]

clap,clap, bat up... well ...I just completed my 100.......th post :duh:

 

[Linda]

Ganguly joins the ever growing list of Clarke supporters

Perhaps he would like to join the MCAS?

 

[masterblaster]

Im sorry Linda, I think he's already part of the evergreen AAAS, since he has been giving him games for so very, very long.

 

[Salamuddin]

Australia A certainly played very well in their tour match against India.

India were totally lacklustre in the first half of the game but looked more switched on 2nd time they had a bowl.
I'm very impressed with Irfan Khan Pathan especially considering this lad is still eligible for the Youth World Cup in February.
He swings the ball appreciably -- he needs to add more pace and devlop greater consistency but that will come as he works with Gregory Allen King.
Certainly this tour will be an invaluable learning experience for him.

I dunno how much of a bearing India's display at Hobart will have on their performance come Boxing day.
THey were pretty poor in their tour matches before the first two tests which further fuelled suspicions of an Australian whitewash.....

 

[bennyr]

Is it just me of does anyone else think he's just trying to annoy Steve Waugh even more?

I didn't come to this conclusion myself, but the conclusion certainly fits the evidence. And it's just the sort of activity that Waugh himself would engage in. My admiration of Sourav Ganguly just continues to grow this series.

 

[nibbs]

A Question

Australia are beginning to find out what life is like after the likes of Warne and McGrath. The current bowling attack is having trouble bowling out the Indians, which makes me wonder, can Australia take 20 wickets in a match against India in this series. To even level the series they will probably need to do this. Players like Williams aren't up to it, and I don't really know if Bichel is either. Can Australia fight their back into the series???

I have my doubts.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INDIA!

 

[Kenny]

I'm not sure you can make that kind of observation based on the first two tests - the first one was washed out, and the second was lost because Australia did not show the necessary application in their 2nd innings and by and large, the top seven with the exception of Langer got themselves out with rash or poor shot selection.

Australia had a first innings lead. I feel it was poor batting, rather than bowling, that cost us the test match.

 

[Kenny]

I didn't come to this conclusion myself, but the conclusion certainly fits the evidence. And it's just the sort of activity that Waugh himself would engage in. My admiration of Sourav Ganguly just continues to grow this series.

I agreed with 90% of the things you have posted before I saw this comparison......:rolleyes:

I think Ganguly was saying simply what he said - that Clarke is a great player, and that's it.
I mean if Waugh had not already announced his retirement then it might have had some kind of psychological, or tactical aspect, but I mean, come on.......

 

[bennyr]

I agreed with 90% of the things you have posted before I saw this comparison......:rolleyes:

I think Ganguly was saying simply what he said - that Clarke is a great player, and that's it.
I mean if Waugh had not already announced his retirement then it might have had some kind of psychological, or tactical aspect, but I mean, come on.......

And I agree 100% with your previous post on this thread, but I can't agree 100% with this one. I think that Ganguly's comments become all the more tactical in light of Waugh's announced retirement in a "move over now, old man, your replacement is here and he's better than you" sort of way.

Of course, this could well be a load of old bollocks. All I said originally was that the evidence fits the theory. The evidence also fits your theory: that he thinks Michael Clarke is a great player.

 

[krkode]

A Question

Australia are beginning to find out what life is like after the likes of Warne and McGrath. The current bowling attack is having trouble bowling out the Indians, which makes me wonder, can Australia take 20 wickets in a match against India in this series. To even level the series they will probably need to do this. Players like Williams aren't up to it, and I don't really know if Bichel is either. Can Australia fight their back into the series???

I have my doubts.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INDIA!

Well, Lee is coming back. While I doubt he's the kind that'll rip off 10-12 wickets in the match, he definitely does have the ability to upset the Indians.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

Yes krkode, lee is coming back. But he can't do anything all by himself. Gillespie was probably the only bowler to trouble India in the series so far. And he is out now. So it evens out.

We can't be sure how good Lee will be either. He might get thrashed around! (which is what I want hehe)

 

[jagaways]

Lee's return should trouble a few batsman such as Ganguly, and perhaps a few lower order players like Patel etc. but apart from that, i don't think he will make much of a difference. Him opening the bowling with Gillespie at the other end would be a different story, but just by himself i think the bulk of the indian lineup would be able to handle him. also, IMO even glenn mcgrath would not cause much havoc -- i see this indian side as completely different to that of old, and mcgrath's lack of genuine pace would IMO make him sort of like a much more accurate nathan bracken...and we saw how little effect bracken had on the indians...

 

[CDAK]

I'm not sure you can make that kind of observation based on the first two tests - the first one was washed out, and the second was lost because Australia did not show the necessary application in their 2nd innings and by and large, the top seven with the exception of Langer got themselves out with rash or poor shot selection.

Australia had a first innings lead. I feel it was poor batting, rather than bowling, that cost us the test match.

Many teams who lost against australia were also having the same excuses like:
1) Lack of application
2) Indisciplined batting
3) Some players played rash shots......
Obviously, most of their either batting or bowling was poor , that's y they lost it.
So, how can u expect aus is better than others if u put forward such ordinary reasons for failing a match.
Remember, only the team effort made aus the world champ and ur batting line up is no better than anyother test playing nations(other thean Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) .

 

[CDAK]

:!( *@#BUCKNERRRRR *#@**:!( :!(

The Indian Team psychologist Sandy Gorden said Sachin is still in the shock of Buckner's controvercial decision.!!!:O and they r trying to bring back Sachin by showing the videotapes of his old successful innings against aus!!!

 

[bennyr]

:!( *@#BUCKNERRRRR *#@**:!( :!(

The Indian Team psychologist Sandy Gorden said Sachin is still in the shock of Buckner's controvercial decision.!!!:O and they r trying to bring back Sachin by showing the videotapes of his old successful innings against aus!!!

You have got to be kidding!!!

Sachin Tendulkar is a professional sportsperson, and this amounts to crying over spilt milk. Steve Bucknor made a mistake that, in it's context, could not have had much bearing on the result. I am extremely sympathetic to the extreme pressure that one billion people place on the shoulders of Tendulkar, but in this case I have only three words:

Get over it.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

Originally posted by CDAK
Remember, only the team effort made aus the world champ and ur batting line up is no better than anyother test playing nations(other thean Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) .

What you said is very wrong. Australia have one of the most formidable batting lineups in world cricket. Gilchrist, Ponting, Hayden, Lehmann, Martyn, Bevan (ODIs) are class batters. They can walk right into most teams. If you are saying that the Australian batting lineup is no better than Pakistan's, England's, WI's (to name a few), you are sadly mistaken. The reason the aussies lost the last test match was because they didn't apply themselves well enough in their second innings and Agarkar bowled a beautiful line and length and ofcourse due to the WALL Rahul Dravid. India were simply the better team in the last match.

Originally posted by CDAK
The Indian Team psychologist Sandy Gorden said Sachin is still in the shock of Buckner's controvercial decision.!!! and they r trying to bring back Sachin by showing the videotapes of his old successful innings against aus!!!

Bad decisions are part and parcel of the game. Beleive me, even I was ****ed after Sachin's dismissal in the first test and wanted Bucknor's head on a platter. But we got to realise these things happen all the time. To suggest that the world's best batter is having problems coping with an unfair decision is so very unfair to Sachin. I am sure he will be back sooner than later.

 

[CDAK]

You have got to be kidding!!!

Sachin Tendulkar is a professional sportsperson, and this amounts to crying over spilt milk. Steve Bucknor made a mistake that, in it's context, could not have had much bearing on the result. I am extremely sympathetic to the extreme pressure that one billion people place on the shoulders of Tendulkar, but in this case I have only three words:

Get over it.

friends, that's not something from my mind, but Sandy Gorden's words( told to a news person yesterday).
Remember, Sachin was the first Indian captain who had asked for the assistance of a psychologist for the team.

 

[CDAK]

What you said is very wrong. Australia have one of the most formidable batting lineups in world cricket. Gilchrist, Ponting, Hayden, Lehmann, Martyn, Bevan (ODIs) are class batters. They can walk right into most teams. If you are saying that the Australian batting lineup is no better than Pakistan's, England's, WI's (to name a few), you are sadly mistaken. The reason the aussies lost the last test match was because they didn't apply themselves well enough in their second innings and Agarkar bowled a beautiful line and length and ofcourse due to the WALL Rahul Dravid. India were simply the better team in the last match.

Big names can always give stength on paper(like in the case of India). But in reality, the team effort makes the change(otherwise India & Windies would've won all the matches with the mere presence of Sachin & Lara).

Srilanka has got the equal capability that of aussies(except for some in pace deaprtment).If Lanka palys to their potential, then aus formidable batting line up seems to be the same as that of Lankans..(not Indians)



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[Kenny]

Many teams who lost against australia were also having the same excuses like:
1) Lack of application
2) Indisciplined batting
3) Some players played rash shots......
Obviously, most of their either batting or bowling was poor , that's y they lost it.
So, how can u expect aus is better than others if u put forward such ordinary reasons for failing a match.
Remember, only the team effort made aus the world champ and ur batting line up is no better than anyother test playing nations(other thean Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) .

Actually most teams have been beaten by great disclipined bowling and working to a plan, formidable batting, and a mental 'steel' that Australia have had a reputation for under S.Waugh.
What I said was correct.

Langer was out LBW to a beauty.
Hayden played a loose drive and was caught.
Ponting played a lazy square cut, he should have left the ball a foot outside the off stump alone.
Martyn played a loose drive to a leg break pitched in the rough a foot outside off stump.
So did Steve Waugh.
Gilchrist played a loose and lazy 'swat' at a straight break aimed at leg stump.

We outscored India in the 1st innings, and they lost 6 wickets chasing a moderate target in the 2nd - ergo, we did not score enough runs in our 2nd innings.