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*Official* First Test at Trent Bridge, Nottingham - Aug 4-8 - 2021

honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
CricAddict said:
Not sure of SKY at 3. May be Pujara dropped and Rahane to 3 with SKY or Gill at 5 can work.
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I was half joking but honestly, SKY at 5 can work. Rahane at 3 can work too, coz right now being the last specialist batsman seems like something he can't handle and has been this way since about 2016 for whatever reason. I just wish we had more left handed batsmen, instead of all of them just being wicket keepers or spin-allrounders.
 
hendrix

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
OverratedSanity said:
Rahane's actually been in the "best" form among those three over the last couple of years. I dont think there are many great middle order prospects trying to kick the door down either which is worrying.
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Rahane is averaging like 41 now. I always felt he was a late 40s average kinda guy. I get that we've had a few years of ball dominating a bit, but still.

I can't explain it except to say they're just not as hungry anymore.
 
silentstriker

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Burgey said:
That's a ****load better batting line up than England's tbh.

The absolutely key player for England this series is Rory Burns. If he doesn't score at least reasonably heavy at the top they're ****ed. The rest of that batting side is middling FC standard at best, Root excepted.
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Certainly the batting lineup overall is way better. But England (and NZ) is the worst place for Indian batsmen. Then you add that most of them are not in form. And then add that the other side has home conditions.

Don't get me wrong, India still has better batting comparatively (more players who could get out and score big for sure), but it's not a 'good' lineup in these conditions.
 
silentstriker

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
OverratedSanity said:
Downplaying how bad indias batsmen are at playing swing pre series, call us overly pessimistic and then do a shocked Pikachu when india keep getting bowled out for sub 300 every game. I'm surprised Cw hasn't gotten tired of this routine yet good god.
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This. India fans are certainly overly pessimistic (especially when they become pessimistic at home) but it's weird to call them pessimistic for this. Literally has been happening as long as India have been playing Tests.

Indian batsmen have done well in Aussie conditions for a long time now (even back to the early 2000s and before that) but historically have always struggled in England and in swinging conditions - including almost all of these current players.

It's like who exactly is shocked here?
 
Niall

Niall

International Coach
Arachnodouche said:
Rahane's been an embarrassment for a long time now, but this batting lineup's cooked in general. He and Pujara better be put on notice if they continue laying eggs this tour.
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I'm old enough to remember their was serious hype when he came into the test team as he had a monster first class record.

However its been a so-so test career hasn't it?

People can write about some of his best knocks and their has been some gorgeous ones, but I would bet in many of those series their was plenty of failures also.

He also ultimately failed when he moved the order and had to scurry back to number 5 slot.
 
OverratedSanity

OverratedSanity

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Niall said:
I'm old enough to remember their was serious hype when he came into the test team as he had a monster first class record.

However its been a so-so test career hasn't it?

People can write about some of his best knocks and their has been some gorgeous ones, but I would bet in many of those series their was plenty of failures also.

He also ultimately failed when he moved the order and had to scurry back to number 5 slot.
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He was legitimately awesome first 2 years or so. After that consistent mediocrity.
 
A

Arachnodouche

International Captain
Niall said:
I'm old enough to remember their was serious hype when he came into the test team as he had a monster first class record.

However its been a so-so test career hasn't it?

People can write about some of his best knocks and their has been some gorgeous ones, but I would bet in many of those series their was plenty of failures also.

He also ultimately failed when he moved the order and had to scurry back to number 5 slot.
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I don't know where his stats stand/float in the sea of mediocrity around him these last two years, but for a guy with as much experience and the VCaptaincy to boot, he's having awful brainfades virtually every game he plays. Who's reassured watching him walk out to the middle?

Not letting Kohli off the hook either but the reality is he's undroppable (sorry, sunilz, you can troll till you go up in flames but he'll retire when he wants to). The other two (i.e. Rahane and Pujara) I'm afraid are just dead weight at this stage.
 
Apex Predator

Apex Predator

State Vice-Captain
Mayank should replace Pujara in next game. Pujara has been very very poor in last two years. Tailender esque average almost. Rahane will milk his MCG ton this full tour at least.
Kohli is on a decline.

No harm in trying Mayank at 3. Dude is a fighter.
 
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