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Ha! Seriously? Watch the goal again and watch Gerrard and tell me that's his fault.
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*Official* English Football Season 2013-14
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It's not that it's his "fault", because clearly it came from a **** pass by someone else. It just shows how inappropriate he is for the role. He moves into a position to receive the ball if Liverpool win it, when a defensive-minded player would move into a position to protect the goal if they don't. Ends up leaving the back four exposed when Lucas wouldn't have.
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Ikki
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He's right, defensively Gerrard was very good. He had a bad passing game but for me Rodgers' tinkering with Lucas ahead of him was misguided. He should have let both play in their natural roles. He is grooming Gerrard for that position though, but I think having Allen and Henderson ahead of him is better than Lucas who isn't really that mobile or creative with his passing.
It was just a poor pass. You're seeing far too much into it. If he had passed right into his feet (which Jordan attempted to do) that would have been a poorer pass because it'd be right into Gerrard's feet with an oncoming pressing Stoke player. Moving into open space was the right thing to do as it took the need away for a touch. It was only 1-2 yards to the right.
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sledger
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Yeah, but he's a guy who's capable of making even the most reasonable point seem unreasonable. He's a thoroughly odious individual, who repeatedly behaves like a complete oik, only to then try and laugh it off afterwards. He's rapidly approaching the Warnock bracket of unpleasantness for mine.
Cabinet96
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Well, Dortmund have found their replacement for Lewandowski
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Can't be very often that the top 7 have all won over the same weekend.
Furball
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The Arsenal of 3 years back would have found a way to lose.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
It's often true though. Hence why the current Arsenal are top of the table in mid-January, and the Arsenal sides of the last 2-3 years did not manage this.
The game last night was a prime example of the exact kind of match they used to make a meal of. If you think back to nearly 2 years ago exactly, they played away at Fulham, generally dominated play and never looked threatened, were winning until the last 15 mins or so, and then conceded two fairly ****e goals one of which was because of a total inability to deal with high balls into the box, and the game was lost.
Under similar circumstances last night they managed to stand firm, not for the first time this season either.
The game last night was a prime example of the exact kind of match they used to make a meal of. If you think back to nearly 2 years ago exactly, they played away at Fulham, generally dominated play and never looked threatened, were winning until the last 15 mins or so, and then conceded two fairly ****e goals one of which was because of a total inability to deal with high balls into the box, and the game was lost.
Under similar circumstances last night they managed to stand firm, not for the first time this season either.
Cabinet96
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They play differently though. Plenty of times they would've got more goals and won by a four goal margin. This year they sit back when they go a couple of goals infront, regularly end games with more than two fullbacks on the pitch and often just park the bus for the last ten or fifteen minutes. On the contrary I think our biggest win was a 4-1 win at home to Norwich. So yeah, occasionally we hold for games we wouldn't have won two or three years ago. But you could also very regularly say, "the Arsenal of old would've won that 5-1" when we scrap a 2-1 at Villa park. There have been plenty of games we've managed to turn into a so called "hard fought win" just by taking the foot off the throttle. Overall I think it's been a positive (helps to have a really solid back 4/5) but I think the constant comparisons to how Arsenal wouldn't have won such games a few years ago is a bit of a lazy cliche and not always correct IMO.