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*Official* English Football Season 2008-2009

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Arsenal now 5-0 up, goals from Vela and Wilshere, very promising signs indeed, both meant to be highly rated.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Whatever, Ex Brentford star Alex Rhodes and the awesome Pablo mills will rip up league two and move on to league one in the next two years.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Hmmm, really have no idea what you're on about GIMH, can't see how any of those cases are remotely similar to West Hams. Being in a totally different league n all. Also being over a totally different thing.

West Ham were punished, there was no similar precedent, and I really don't see why points had to be deducted. I wasn't aware that different ownership of West ham was a factor in the case, could be wrong though.

Oh and Sheff U fans (and I have known a few in my time), would argue that they're not exactly a small club and west ham are hardly man u, are they?
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Hmmm, really have no idea what you're on about GIMH, can't see how any of those cases are remotely similar to West Hams. Being in a totally different league n all. Also being over a totally different thing.

West Ham were punished, there was no similar precedent, and I really don't see why points had to be deducted. I wasn't aware that different ownership of West ham was a factor in the case, could be wrong though.

Oh and Sheff U fans (and I have known a few in my time), would argue that they're not exactly a small club and west ham are hardly man u, are they?
I didn't say the cases themselves were similar. What I said was that West Ham weren't deducted points when they clearly should have been because it wouldn't have been fair to punish the fans for rules that were breached by people who were no longer at the club.

Rotherham, Bournemouth and Luton's offences were all committed by regimes that had left the club by the time they were deducted points. This is the connection.

Whether it was Sheffield United, Manchester United or bloody Eastham Rangers that suffered because of West Ham's illegal player is a moot point, IMO. Fact is they breached rules and weren't punished in the way they clearly should have been. And as for West Ham not being a big club, well that's simply not true, sure they're not a big four side, but they get attendances between 30-40k, that's a big club in my book.

Guarantee you if it had been Wigan or Reading there'd have been deductions, no doubt at all in my mind
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Where do you think Arsenal's League Cup side would finish in the Prem?

Gotta admire the way Wenger sticks with them as far as they go in this competition, even if it's all the way to the final, whereas the others from the "big four" tend to ease in a Gerrard here or a Kalou there as the thing progresses
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Where do you think Arsenal's League Cup side would finish in the Prem?

Gotta admire the way Wenger sticks with them as far as they go in this competition, even if it's all the way to the final, whereas the others from the "big four" tend to ease in a Gerrard here or a Kalou there as the thing progresses
Hard to say imo, when they just play in the league cup they only have to play one off matches with nothing much to lose every few weeks. Were they to be playing 1-2 times a week for an entire season I think they would struggle to keep up without older, fitter and more experienced players around them.

However, in the event of an injury to one of the first team players, I personally would not have an issue with any of the youngsters playing tonight to come straight into the first team, many such as Ramsey, Vela, Wilshere and Merida have already appeared in the champions league and premiership already this season.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Heard that Rotherham might have a goal or two deducted before the draw for the next round is made, so don't count your chickens just yet
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
GAGF, Mark Burchill has a Captain Scarlett Lunch box, so **** you for suggesting he would ever use a common sandwich bag in any way, shape or form.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
I didn't say the cases themselves were similar. What I said was that West Ham weren't deducted points when they clearly should have been because it wouldn't have been fair to punish the fans for rules that were breached by people who were no longer at the club.

Rotherham, Bournemouth and Luton's offences were all committed by regimes that had left the club by the time they were deducted points. This is the connection.

Whether it was Sheffield United, Manchester United or bloody Eastham Rangers that suffered because of West Ham's illegal player is a moot point, IMO. Fact is they breached rules and weren't punished in the way they clearly should have been. And as for West Ham not being a big club, well that's simply not true, sure they're not a big four side, but they get attendances between 30-40k, that's a big club in my book.

Guarantee you if it had been Wigan or Reading there'd have been deductions, no doubt at all in my mind
Yeah AWTA.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I didn't say the cases themselves were similar. What I said was that West Ham weren't deducted points when they clearly should have been because it wouldn't have been fair to punish the fans for rules that were breached by people who were no longer at the club.

Rotherham, Bournemouth and Luton's offences were all committed by regimes that had left the club by the time they were deducted points. This is the connection.

Whether it was Sheffield United, Manchester United or bloody Eastham Rangers that suffered because of West Ham's illegal player is a moot point, IMO. Fact is they breached rules and weren't punished in the way they clearly should have been. And as for West Ham not being a big club, well that's simply not true, sure they're not a big four side, but they get attendances between 30-40k, that's a big club in my book.

Guarantee you if it had been Wigan or Reading there'd have been deductions, no doubt at all in my mind

I don't see that they clearly should of been at all. It was a rule-breach, yet not all rule breaches get points deducted. IMO, it's only because it was a so-called small club, against a so-called big club that's kept this embarrassing houha going. Noth-south thing too. The Blades should of been thrown out of the league with no money as there clearly IS a rule that if you take legal action against a prem league decision, that's what should happen. Why don't you talk about that injustice, or is it no fun if it's the so-called small club who have got away with it?

The last paragraph is pointless conjecture, so I'll counter it by saying if it had been Reading or Wigan 'twould of been the same, no doubt at all in my mind. Equally pointless conjecture.
 

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