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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Downing is only a fill in for Joe Cole to get back to fitness.

Bridge is a left back not getting first team football so get these stupid ideas about him playing left wing out of your head.

Yes Downing was filling in for Cole, but Cole will get injured again sometime in the future or in a match might be substituted & will need a good replacement.

Bridge can play left-midfield, just because you don't think so doesn't make it a stupid idea yo, look at someone like Zambrotta(not saying Bridge is as good as him) but he has played left-back & left-midfield for club & country. If you remember Bridge could have been England left-midfielder today if it weren't for injuries, after Euro 2004 when Scholes retired & England were looking for a man on the left Sven gave him a few games on the left & he looked good then got injured , Joe was given a shot & has been superb ever since.

But if not Bridge one could also look at Gareth Barry..

marc71178 said:
Scott Parker is not in the squad so is at best 8th choice midfielder. When will you learn that?.
Oh geez so what if he is not in the squad, that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be in it, when will you learn that?. Look at how well he has been playing for Newcastle so far this season with Hargreaves out, Parker is clearly his most suitable replacement do you disagree with that?

marc71178 said:
Unfortunately not, but this is McLaren trying to appear like he's decisive. The fact that the likes of Jenas and SWP are in the squad but Beckham not shows that in fact McLaren is being clueless.
Jenas definately, SWP not so much. I think Beckham does have a shot though as i mentioned before in a more central role, since his days of playing on the right for England IMO are finished.

And no McClaren is not clueless the man is clearly made some good changes & is trying to do this better for the side, some being such a crazy critic yo..
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Matteh said:
Scholes is so much better than O'Shea it's ridiculous. When Giggs comes back, it'll be 442 Diamond.
Never said O'shea was better than scholes or the other way round, no doubt when Giggs returns Fergie should go back to the diamond formation but looking ahead to the future if United can get big Hargreaves things should change.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Matteh said:
If O'Shea was better than Scholes then we'd see the v. Benfica formation staying.
Scholes is better than O'shea, don't know if you misunderstood me along the way. The Benfica formation can stay if United can get Hargreaves if not the usual diamond will continue.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
aussie said:
Yes Downing was filling in for Cole, but Cole will get injured again sometime in the future or in a match might be substituted & will need a good replacement.
He's still the 2nd best option though.

aussie said:
Bridge can play left-midfield, just because you don't think so doesn't make it a stupid idea yo, look at someone like Zambrotta(not saying Bridge is as good as him) but he has played left-back & left-midfield for club & country.
Yes, the key thing being that he plays full back for his club, Bridge does not play left midfield for Chelsea for a very good reason.


aussie said:
If you remember Bridge could have been England left-midfielder today if it weren't for injuries, after Euro 2004 when Scholes retired & England were looking for a man on the left Sven gave him a few games on the left & he looked good then got injured ,
He started him what once or twice, and he was capable but nothing better. The injury is irrelevant to the lack of a solution to the then problem.


aussie said:
But if not Bridge one could also look at Gareth Barry..
A centre midfielder, so getting closer to the requirement, but still miles away from the squad, let alone the team...


aussie said:
Oh geez so what if he is not in the squad, that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be in it, when will you learn that?.
He's not in the squad because better options exist.

If better squad options exist then it follows that better starting options exise - when will you learn that?


aussie said:
Look at how well he has been playing for Newcastle so far this season with Hargreaves out, Parker is clearly his most suitable replacement do you disagree with that?
So what exactly has he done to put him ahead of the other more defensive midfielders that McLerikkson has picked then?

aussie said:
Jenas definately, SWP not so much.
Please tell me how SWP is a better option than Beckham? What does he add to the squad that Lennon doesn't already have?

aussie said:
I think Beckham does have a shot though as i mentioned before in a more central role, since his days of playing on the right for England IMO are finished.
Move him into the middle and remove his best trait - interesting option that.

aussie said:
And no McClaren is not clueless the man is clearly made some good changes & is trying to do this better for the side, some being such a crazy critic yo..
So what changes has he made then, aside from dropping Beckham?

Performances have been just as clueless with wins more owing to opposition weaknesses than our play.
Excessive subs still used.
Players played out of position (but since you rate Bridge on left wing you'll probably not call that a problem)
Attempts to hold on to a 1-0 against a minnow by hoofing it up to a lone striker.

All the critcisms of Eriksson...
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
aussie said:
Never said O'shea was better than scholes or the other way round, no doubt when Giggs returns Fergie should go back to the diamond formation but looking ahead to the future if United can get big Hargreaves things should change.
Transfer window, broken leg. It'll be next summer at the very least that's ignoring the factor of Bayern Munich.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
marc71178 said:
He's still the 2nd best option though.



Yes, the key thing being that he plays full back for his club, Bridge does not play left midfield for Chelsea for a very good reason.




He started him what once or twice, and he was capable but nothing better. The injury is irrelevant to the lack of a solution to the then problem.




A centre midfielder, so getting closer to the requirement, but still miles away from the squad, let alone the team...




He's not in the squad because better options exist.

If better squad options exist then it follows that better starting options exise - when will you learn that?




So what exactly has he done to put him ahead of the other more defensive midfielders that McLerikkson has picked then?



Please tell me how SWP is a better option than Beckham? What does he add to the squad that Lennon doesn't already have?



Move him into the middle and remove his best trait - interesting option that.



So what changes has he made then, aside from dropping Beckham?

Performances have been just as clueless with wins more owing to opposition weaknesses than our play.
Excessive subs still used.
Players played out of position (but since you rate Bridge on left wing you'll probably not call that a problem)
Attempts to hold on to a 1-0 against a minnow by hoofing it up to a lone striker.

All the critcisms of Eriksson...
Beckham is definitely still the best right sided midfielder England have. Lennon's a few years off from being world class no matter how good he looks. Oh and Barry is a left sided player. Has played in left midfield too so he is a more viable option to Brdige who I don't think has ever played there professionally.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
roseboy64 said:
Beckham is definitely still the best right sided midfielder England have. Lennon's a few years off from being world class no matter how good he looks. Oh and Barry is a left sided player. Has played in left midfield too so he is a more viable option to Brdige who I don't think has ever played there professionally.
In the Left mid thing - Cole > Downing > Barry i reckon. Cole lightyears ahead of both, worth trying out Barry in a friendly in that position i guess, see if it looks any good.

As for the Right Mid - Surely it's Gerrard? Sure that's not his best position, but it's hard to choose between Lampard and Gerrard in their best position and any coach that dared to try would lose half their support. Give Beckham a chance if he deserves it, not saying completely rule him out forever.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Aside from being able to cross the ball well and be a good passer what is his other main feature? Pace? No where near as quick as Aaron Lennon for example. If it was it certaintly isn't now and IMO you need your wingers to have pace (and have other good ball skills as well).

I think they stick with Lennon, he has the potential to be very good and I see it no different (using a cricket example) when England stuck with Andrew Flintoff when he was crap at the start of his career (before the big improvement before 2002/2003).
 

Tomm NCCC

International 12th Man
Mr Geraint IMH, Youre not top yet, a hard fought point at vale and you chucking a 2 goal lead away sees us stay top for another few days at least
 

Tomm NCCC

International 12th Man
Matteh said:
Only one good team in Notts. and it's called Mansfield.
Haha, keep thinking that way mr Matteh, either way, youve caught the Forest disease.... not being able to score from the spot.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Tomm NCCC said:
Haha, keep thinking that way mr Matteh, either way, youve caught the Forest disease.... not being able to score from the spot.
We're the most inconsistent team ever. Win 4v1 one week then lose somehow the next week *sigh*
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Has played in left midfield too so he is a more viable option to Brdige who I don't think has ever played there professionally.
so the occasions he played for southampton and england in that position as marc has already mentioned dont count as being professional?
 

Agent TBY

International Captain
BBC said:
2102: RED CARD
Juventus striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic receives his marching orders for his second bookable offence. No goals in that game but Bayern hold the advantage now.
Outdated on anything but the British game, anyone?
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
good win for Liverpool fairly exciting game. Valencia are looking good of late, can't belive Bayern beat Inter, Chelsea just keep strolling along while Barcelona are lucky to snatch a point.
 

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