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*Official* English Football Season 2005-06

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
For all the talk about Big Phil not being able to speak English.

If the captain can't, why should the coach?
 

Craig

World Traveller
Barney Rubble said:
Yeah, it really has. I'm made up about this - proven class manager, really hope he takes the job. :)
Although I don't think any members in the England team speak Portugese so that might be a problem and if he speaks any Spanish he will have Beckham or if in the one and 25 million chance that he is fit Jonathan Woodgate is in the team then he will have them to translate :laugh:
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
marc71178 said:
I'd debate how "world class" he actually was...
Well, fair enough. That was exactly the point I was making about O'Neill, even if Larsson isn't world class he's still head-and-shoulders above any other player O'Neill's had to work with. If he's played long-ball (and he didn't at Celtic with any regularity) it's because he had to, cutting one's cloth accordingly & all that.

He's improved every team he's managed (except Norwich, but he didn't hang around there because Robert Chase was a grade A tool of a chairman) &, after Hiddink ruled himself out, I think he's clearly the man for the job.

If we pass on him I think we'll be making a Clough-esque horlicks.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Yes, if he was the outstanding candidate it would be.

However he is yet another man with no real experience of dealing with the big egos and his only real success came in a league with 1 team of opposition.

For me the outstanding choice has got away in Hiddink, but as a back up a man who has shown passion, tactical nous and winning will be a better option than any other I can see.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
luckyeddie said:
Scaly would have apoplexy if that was Henry
Would that be the same Henry who was last night named player of the year by the writers for an unprecedented 3rd time to add to his player's player award of Sunday?

But what would they know about football?
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
marc71178 said:
Yes, if he was the outstanding candidate it would be.

However he is yet another man with no real experience of dealing with the big egos and his only real success came in a league with 1 team of opposition.

For me the outstanding choice has got away in Hiddink, but as a back up a man who has shown passion, tactical nous and winning will be a better option than any other I can see.
Even if you discount O'Neill's achievements in Scotland, he did very, very well at Wycombe, and a look at how Leicester have fared since his departure, and prior to it, would do you well when rating his talents. I'm not saying he is necessarily the man I would give the job to, but believe me, he broke my heart in 2000 and he's a very good manager, certainly better than the English candidates.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
BoyBrumby said:
Well, fair enough. That was exactly the point I was making about O'Neill, even if Larsson isn't world class he's still head-and-shoulders above any other player O'Neill's had to work with. If he's played long-ball (and he didn't at Celtic with any regularity) it's because he had to, cutting one's cloth accordingly & all that.

He's improved every team he's managed (except Norwich, but he didn't hang around there because Robert Chase was a grade A tool of a chairman) &, after Hiddink ruled himself out, I think he's clearly the man for the job.

If we pass on him I think we'll be making a Clough-esque horlicks.
Lubomir Moravcik was a pretty good player, technically one of the most gifted players to play for Celtic in recent times.

I rate Henrik Larsson not purely as a goal scorer but his link up play and intelligence is second to none, sure he scored goals in a tin pot league but if people can rate Martin O'Neill as the second coming then Larsson surely should be held in the same esteem. Larsson has done fantastically well in La Liga so far, currently has the best scoring rate per minutes on the field and his not even playing up top for Barca, his usually stuck out on the right wing.
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
GeraintIsMyHero said:
Even if you discount O'Neill's achievements in Scotland, he did very, very well at Wycombe, and a look at how Leicester have fared since his departure, and prior to it, would do you well when rating his talents. I'm not saying he is necessarily the man I would give the job to, but believe me, he broke my heart in 2000 and he's a very good manager, certainly better than the English candidates.
With Wycombe he got them into the league and then up a division I believe. With Leicester he won the Worthless cup at a time when the biggest clubs all treated it with the utmost contempt...

Both good achievements yes, but hardly ones to rank against a world cup and a few Copa Libertadores!
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Would that be the same Henry who was last night named player of the year by the writers for an unprecedented 3rd time to add to his player's player award of Sunday?

But what would they know about football?
In Danny Fulbrook, Rob Beasley case not a lot.
 

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