*Official* English Football Season 2005-06

[roseboy64]

Since when has that been an assumption? I'll wager about 5 minutes.

Scouts aren't a new invention.

And I assume Wnger insisting that a lad called Vieira was signed before he agreed a contract was the scouts doing as well?

Of course they aren't. More of them are around now though aren't they?

 

[roseboy64]

funny then how the majority of man utds bulk spending has come in the more recent years since wenger has been at arsenal as well.

Barthez and Veron just weren't suitable to the English game with the former being somewhat of a David James.

 

[marc71178]

A lot less certainty about a player's skills then I'd think. I'd hardly expect a scout to watch a player has often now than would be the custom then.

The bold word says a lot.

Scouts are not a new invention, yet you seem to think that they are because it suits you.

 

[sledger]

Of course they aren't. More of them are around now though aren't they?

there are more players around now, and all sorts of others involved in the sport, itsthe same with any big business, expansion happens.

 

[marc71178]

Of course they aren't. More of them are around now though aren't they?

Cunningly sidestepping the other, far more pertinent comment I see...

 

[marc71178]

Barthez and Veron just weren't suitable to the English game with the former being somewhat of a David James.

And who's fault is that then?

 

[roseboy64]

that'll do for me.

More televised too I'd think. The game has become more global therefore attracting a larger talent pool to choose from.

 

[sledger]

Barthez and Veron just weren't suitable to the English game with the former being somewhat of a David James.

i couldnt agree more, esspecially on veron, however that doesnt hide the fact that despite spending vast amounts of money arsenal came out on top. Again, in relation to the argument over ferguson vs wenger, what you have said is irrelevant, in fact in condemns ferguson if anything.

 

[roseboy64]

And who's fault is that then?

The manager's. Veron was brilliant before Engalnd. Same too for Cisse, Morientes and Crespo. He's doing better in Italy now isn't he?

 

[sledger]

The game has become more global therefore attracting a larger talent pool to choose from

it has been a global game far longer than either manager has been in charge of their sides.

 

[sledger]

The manager's. Veron was brilliant before Engalnd. Same too for Cisse, Morientes and Crespo

precisely, well done.

 

[roseboy64]

i couldnt agree more, esspecially on veron, however that doesnt hide the fact that despite spending vast amounts of money arsenal came out on top. Again, in relation to the argument over ferguson vs wenger, what you have said is irrelevant, in fact in condemns ferguson if anything.

How so?

 

[marc71178]

The manager's. Veron was brilliant before Engalnd. Same too for Cisse, Morientes and Crespo. He's doing better in Italy now isn't he?

The manager is now at fault then?

I thought it was all scouts nowadays?!

As for Veron doing better in Italy, if you call being nowhere near his national squad any more doing better then fair enough.

 

[roseboy64]

it has been a global game far longer than either manager has been in charge of their sides.

You can't say though that the game hasn't become more popular. I wasn't interested in football until it became more regular on TV.

 

[sledger]

How so?

well you have reeled off how ferguson has made a series of poor signings for huge amounts of money and achieved minimal sucess with, hardly actions befitting of a one you have nothing but praise for now its it?

 

[roseboy64]

The manager is now at fault then?

I thought it was all scouts nowadays?!

As for Veron doing better in Italy, if you call being nowhere near his national squad any more doing better then fair enough.

He's doing better than when he was in England. The case is the same for lots of players. The Italian and Spanish leagues better suit them. Surely someone like Riquelme wouldn't do as well in Engalnd as he does in Spain.

 

[sledger]

You can't say though that the game hasn't become more popular. I wasn't interested in football until it became more regular on TV.

how very nice for you, the reality however is that it has been a global game for much longer than you or i were even born. The game is indeed growing in popularity today..but thats irrelevant once more.

 

[sledger]

He's doing better than when he was in England. The case is the same for lots of players. The Italian and Spanish leagues better suit them. Surely someone like Riquelme wouldn't do as well in Engalnd as he does in Spain.

you had better ask a scout.

 

[roseboy64]

well you have reeled off how ferguson has made a series of poor signings for huge amounts of money and achieved minimal sucess with, hardly actions befitting of a one you have nothing but praise for now its it?

That's recently. I was originally talking about trial and error when he started out. He's "in decline" now so that has increased in irrelevancy.

 

[sledger]

so wengers recent and past signings have been poor ? hardly. The matter of fact is that wengers best buys have all come from his own knowledge prior to any scouting, although undoubtably scouting occured, wenger knew about these players before hand, trial and error ? if you will, but its more sucess rather than error, cannot be said for sir alex, past or present.