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***Official*** English Domestic Season 2014

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
And tbf all I've had is a quick glance at the scorecard.

btw do we know why Bell isn't playing today?
Broken toe from the ODIs, also has some sickness I can't remember off the top of my head.

Porterfield was the only real regulation edge sort of wicket. Trott missed a Collywobbler. Ambrose slashed at a full wide one. Evans gloved a bouncer. Clarke's feet didn't move and played across it. Woakes tried to clear mid-on. Chopra got bowled around his legs trying to play it to fine leg in the powerplay and Patel tried to repeat his six next ball by giving himself even more room than last time.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That is an hideous shot, why on Earth are you playing it to a straight ball when you just need to survive Patel. Poor, poor cricket.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Jeez, why wouldn't you have a second slip? Chopra can't seriously think he'll win by restricting Durham runs.

Despite the edge, Woakes has showed today why he shouldn't be within a mile of an England limited overs squad.
 

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Jeez, why wouldn't you have a second slip? Chopra can't seriously think he'll win by restricting Durham runs.

Despite the edge, Woakes has showed today why he shouldn't be within a mile of an England limited overs squad.
Woakes had a real bad day but you could easily single out most of the bowlers (and most people have) from the india series as just as aveage and not international standard. Gurney? Jordan? Stokes? I'm no great fan of Woakes for ODI cricket but his selection isn't bad given the alternatives for his spot. He likely won't make it as an ODI cricketer but I can't see any bowlers outside the squad who were fit who I can say '**** I wish he was in the squad'.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Woakes had a real bad day but you could easily single out most of the bowlers (and most people have) from the india series as just as aveage and not international standard. Gurney? Jordan? Stokes? I'm no great fan of Woakes for ODI cricket but his selection isn't bad given the alternatives for his spot. He likely won't make it as an ODI cricketer but I can't see any bowlers outside the squad who were fit who I can say '**** I wish he was in the squad'.
Nah as an ODI player he's never shown owt, I'd rather have many that have done better in the form. Or just potential, nothing has said he does it in this form.
 

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Nah as an ODI player he's never shown owt, I'd rather have many that have done better in the form. Or just potential, nothing has said he does it in this form.
What and Gurney who is poor in the field and terrible with the bat + plus doesn't swing the ball when he opens the bowling is such a wonder prospect or current player.
Or Jordan who regularly bowls 5+ wides a game
or Stokes who just isn't quite as bad as gurney or jordan.

Or pick from outside. Rushworth 15 wickets in this tourny. Or David Payne as the highest english fast bowling wickettaker in the tourney. Or Mark Wood from Durham who managed 0 games on the way to the final with Durham.Or back to Bresnan.

I'm no fan of Woakes but singling him out as the weak point strikes me as odd. The bowling attack as a whole is poor. It lacks variation, pace, and even accuracy. Woakes isn't the problem; the quality of domestic english cricket is
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
What and Gurney who is poor in the field and terrible with the bat + plus doesn't swing the ball when he opens the bowling is such a wonder prospect or current player.
Or Jordan who regularly bowls 5+ wides a game
or Stokes who just isn't quite as bad as gurney or jordan.

Or pick from outside. Rushworth 15 wickets in this tourny. Or David Payne as the highest english fast bowling wickettaker in the tourney. Or Mark Wood from Durham who managed 0 games on the way to the final with Durham.Or back to Bresnan.

I'm no fan of Woakes but singling him out as the weak point strikes me as odd. The bowling attack as a whole is poor. It lacks variation, pace, and even accuracy. Woakes isn't the problem; the quality of domestic english cricket is
Nah, all this is pretty poor TBH, Maybe all those players would be worse than Woakes, but I'm reasonably sure none of them averages over 35 with the ball in list A. It's not a form he's remotley good at. It doesn't help him play it, for him England or his county.
 

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Well rushworth averages 20.54 in lo cricket. Or will gidman who averages more with bat and less with ball than woakes. How'd you feel about those guys going to aus for the WC?
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well rushworth averages 20.54 in lo cricket. Or will gidman who averages more with bat and less with ball than woakes. How'd you feel about those guys going to aus for the WC?
I don't much, so lets pick others. Again I like how Woakes has made himself a better bowler and batsman over the last year or so, but it's not going to help him or England being picked in a form he's clearly not suited for.
 

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