*Official* English Domestic Season (2004)

[Langeveldt]

Certainly Hick was a pretty good ODI player.

It was pretty bad thinking that he didnt play more ODI cricket...
Especially when guys like Irani have batted at 3, absolute madness

 

[Neil Pickup]

Only David Lloyd, with his tender loving cheer, got the best out of him. Ramprakash has the talent but is emotionally vulnerable and needs to be treated with respect so cannot succeed under tyranical dictators like Fletcher.

So let's bring back Bumble?

 

[a massive zebra]

So let's bring back Bumble?

Why? Ramprakash is getting old now and Bumble was an even less successful England coach than the overweight lump that is the tyranical Duncan Fletcher.

 

[marc71178]

We are crap

No, the Bears are just far superior...

 

[marc71178]

Why? Ramprakash is getting old now and Bumble was an even less successful England coach than the overweight lump that is the tyranical Duncan Fletcher.

Yes, becuase Fletcher has been so unsuccessful...

 

[Langeveldt]

Why? Ramprakash is getting old now and Bumble was an even less successful England coach than the overweight lump that is the tyranical Duncan Fletcher.

I dont like the guys methods... But who am I to argue when the results are there??

Bring on Bob Woolmer....

 

[a massive zebra]

Yes, becuase Fletcher has been so unsuccessful...

Yes but Lloyd was even worse. He hardly won anything. I know Fletcher cannot win ODI series away and does not win many test series but at least he won in Sri Lanka and Pakistan, admittedly a long time ago, but still an achievement.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Pre-Fletcher, England hadn't been good since, well, I have no idea. Before I was born, and pre-1980 as well, I'd expect.

Now we're arguably 3rd in the World if not higher.

 

[marc71178]

Yes but Lloyd was even worse. He hardly won anything.

I was being sarcastic. Under Lloyd we were down at the bottom of the tables...

I know Fletcher cannot win ODI series away and does not win many test series but at least he won in Sri Lanka and Pakistan, admittedly a long time ago, but still an achievement.

For a start it's not Fletcher who wins the seris, and secondly if we're "so" poor, how come we've lost 1 in 11 Tests?

 

[tooextracool]

Would you care to enumerate Ramprakash's faults?

He's the only player for whom I predicted a big future when he was still a very junior county cricketer who hasn't made it at least pretty big in Test cricket, and it's been a great disappointment to me that he didn't. I'll be quite happy to explain my view of why he failed, but I'd be interested to know what someone else perceived as his faults.

Cheers,

Mike

ramprakash's problems all lied in the mind....he threw his wicket away rather than had the bowler dismissing him. on innumerable occasions we've seen ramprakash get a start,look good and then throw it away with a careless shot....and who will ever forget the time he came dancing down the track to shane warne at a time when the pressure was on and england were for once in with a chance.

 

[Rich2001]

Umm So anyone want to take a shot at what was going on in David Fulton's mind at the Brit Oval this afternoon

I am quite lost myself.... Rob Key and Khan/Sami dig the team out of a bottomless pit and manage to force the lead upto 170ish with just over a session to go (even with say 35 overs that's still 5 an over to win) yet the captain has a brainwave to bowl Saggers, Khan and Sami a total of 9 overs and allow two batsman in Walker and Carberry bowl basically the whole innings and not forgetting front line bowlers like Ferely didn't even get a go so needless to say we got stuffed within 35 overs - You know Iam not expecting to win, but surely we could have at least made them work hard for a victory, we might have even got a draw

Here's hopping a nice nights rest will clear his mind and tommorow he can come back and be sane for the C&G match with Warwickshire, oh actually we can't play One Day cricket this season for toffee so I'll let him off tommorow

 

[Langeveldt]

Umm So anyone want to take a shot at what was going on in David Fulton's mind at the Brit Oval this afternoon

Not a lot by the sounds of things...

 

[marc71178]

Of course had he been picked for England when Neil wanted Butcher out for him, he'd possibly not have been playing...

 

[Tom Halsey]

Umm So anyone want to take a shot at what was going on in David Fulton's mind at the Brit Oval this afternoon

I am quite lost myself.... Rob Key and Khan/Sami dig the team out of a bottomless pit and manage to force the lead upto 170ish with just over a session to go (even with say 35 overs that's still 5 an over to win) yet the captain has a brainwave to bowl Saggers, Khan and Sami a total of 9 overs and allow two batsman in Walker and Carberry bowl basically the whole innings and not forgetting front line bowlers like Ferely didn't even get a go so needless to say we got stuffed within 35 overs - You know Iam not expecting to win, but surely we could have at least made them work hard for a victory, we might have even got a draw

Here's hopping a nice nights rest will clear his mind and tommorow he can come back and be sane for the C&G match with Warwickshire, oh actually we can't play One Day cricket this season for toffee so I'll let him off tommorow

I don't half love it when you lose...

 

[marc71178]

And look who's top of the league (not that it will last)

 

[tooextracool]

What has pieterson being doing this season?has he been living up to his reputation because he certainly hasnt been in the headlines recently?

 

[twctopcat]

It better not be the start of pre-england jitters, that would **** me off. He's had a couple of big scores but not of ley proportions, i'd say read's out scoring him too!

 

[marc71178]

I don't actually think it matters (unless he has a Key-esqe season)

He'll be selected for the SA tour.

 

[twctopcat]

Nice little loosener for Kabir ali, 29 off his 1st 2 overs back mostly off the bat of tres!

 

[luckyeddie]

Nice little loosener for Kabir ali, 29 off his 1st 2 overs back mostly off the bat of tres!

Class will out