***Official*** England in Sri Lanka 2012

[Spikey]

plenty of oohing and ahhing behind the wicket

Adnan Akmal is deeply missed ftr

 

[Arachnodouche]

Well if he was setting himself up for switch hitting sooo early, then you have to be a pretty poor bowler to not get that and bowl around it. It's not like he's going to be able to play orthodox shots south pawed with any kind of fluency. Dilshan, Sangakkara, Jayawardene are all ****s of the first degree. Always have been; Colin Cowdrey lecture my ass.

 

[Cabinet96]

Disagree with the ump then, but for me Dilshan did nothing wrong. He, I guess you could say, appealed that Pietersen was getting into position too early, the umpire agreed. From then on any attempts to switch hit at the same point could only be considered to be time wasting/being a ****. I certainly felt that KP was doing it too early too, and would have done the same as Dilshan.

ps you're up in the quiz draft

What is the actual problem with getting into position early? Surely, if anything, it's an advantage to the bowler because he can change the type of delivery he's going to bowl.

 

[BoyBrumby]

On the "Dilshan being a ****" topic: there was an appeal yesterday when he was bowilng to Trott where he ran the length of the pitch and was actually past the batsman when he finally stopped shrieking like a little girl.

Plus, I don't object to any opposition player showing some gumption, it's rather like he's been batting like a cretin. His innings have generally consisted of a couple of top edged fours over the slips followed by nicking off to slip. It's not what a test opener should be doing.

Lol, KP pulling out of his delivery stride. Wonder if he was making a point...?

 

[BoyBrumby]

Well if he was setting himself up for switch hitting sooo early, then you have to be a pretty poor bowler to not get that and bowl around it. It's not like he's going to be able to play orthodox shots south pawed with any kind of fluency. Dilshan, Sangakkara, Jayawardene are all ****s of the first degree. Always have been; Colin Cowdrey lecture my ass.

Wat.

Literally no English posters have had a go at Sanga or Mehela. Both classy players and individuals.

It's practically defamation to mention them in the same sentence as Dilshan.

 

[Stapel]

So far, Bresnan has bowled only 5 overs. Am I alone in thinking that should be more?

 

[Spikey]

What is the actual problem with getting into position early? Surely, if anything, it's an advantage to the bowler because he can change the type of delivery he's going to bowl.

Fairness, really. I mean by starting to do it early it allows the batsman to be far more settled when he actually makes contract with the ball. So of course, it lowers the chances of ****ing it up . So that's one little thing. But mainly, the bowler can change the type of delivery he's going to bowl, sure, but he can't change the field. He can't change the LBW law. And if you know your field is now pretty much worthless, well of course you're gonna pull out, aren't you? What's wrong with the fielder at slip moving to leg slip as the bowler runs in, one could say. A lot.

One thing I've been meaning to say, I don't agree with this whole delivery stride thing. One, I think it's still a bit early to start allowing for fielders to change positions/batsman to start switch hitting, but also because it's impossible for the umps to really judge it. I understand it for mankading, but for switch hitting and changing fielding positions I'd rather just a simple when the ball is released. Or maybe when the arm is raised to release the delivery. By then it's pretty much impossible for either side to pull out. (that's what she said?)

 

[Cabinet96]

On the "Dilshan being a ****" topic: there was an appeal yesterday when he was bowilng to Trott where he ran the length of the pitch and was actually past the batsman when he finally stopped shrieking like a little girl.

Oh yes I forgot to mention that. Dilshan has Been finned 10% of his match fee for that FTR. Wonder what the ICC will do if Dilshan doesn't actually get paid.

 

[Spikey]

Oh yes I forgot to mention that. Dilshan has Been finned 10% of his match fee for that FTR. Wonder what the ICC will do if Dilshan doesn't actually get paid.

hahahaha I wonder if jayawardene still has to pay his fine.

 

[Spikey]

Black Magic to take SL home ftr.


when are SL's next tests after this one?

 

[Ruckus]

Neither do I. I mean if someone tried that it'd be so obvious and the chances that it'd deliver anything other than a Harmy or a rank long-hop are so small that, well...

Philander could do it.

 

[Cabinet96]

Fairness, really. I mean by starting to do it early it allows the batsman to be far more settled when he actually makes contract with the ball. So of course, it lowers the chances of ****ing it up . So that's one little thing. But mainly, the bowler can change the type of delivery he's going to bowl, sure, but he can't change the field. He can't change the LBW law. And if you know your field is now pretty much worthless, well of course you're gonna pull out, aren't you? What's wrong with the fielder at slip moving to leg slip as the bowler runs in, one could say. A lot.

One thing I've been meaning to say, I don't agree with this whole delivery stride thing. One, I think it's still a bit early to start allowing for fielders to change positions/batsman to start switch hitting, but also because it's impossible for the umps to really judge it. I understand it for mankading, but for switch hitting and changing fielding positions I'd rather just a simple when the ball is released. Or maybe when the arm is raised to release the delivery. By then it's pretty much impossible for either side to pull out. (that's what she said?)

Fair enough. Do you actually think the switch hit should be allowed? Or is it judging getting into position early that bugs you?

Also FTR once a player swaps his hands there's no leg side, meaning that the ball can pitch either side of the wicket and be out LBW.

 

[Migara]

What has Til Dil done to piss off the English players and fans? Haven't watched much of this match

He's a **** of highest order BTW. What ever he does will annoy people.

Having said that I also thinks he has not hit it. But there's nothing to grumble about, because everything occurred according to the protocol. Protocol may be wrong, but first you have to show that you stick to it before criticizing it. Protocols be corrected after the match, not during the match. On other hand, DRS system sucks. Field umpires call decisions should not lose the review, for every successful review ne bonus review has to be offered, and for unsuccessful review, one to be deducted.

 

[uvelocity]

probably belongs in the other thread but drs is really bothering me now. isn't making cricket better or fairer imo, is just being an irritating distraction

 

[theegyptian]

This is why i'd of preferred England to bat to lunch today. They'd have had these two sessions and gone off and rested up for tomorrow. But now we're knackered coming out after tea for the third session in the field of the day. Hopefully there is some inspiration and energy left but it's not unlikely that Jaya and Sama bat this whole session.

 

[Migara]

Was found to be bollocks iirc.

Why should the batsman get the benefit of anything over the bowler?

Benefit of the doubt goes to batsmen with field umpires and TV umpire. Benefit of the doubt goes to field umpire with DRS. OK for me TBH.

 

[Spikey]

Fair enough. Do you actually think the switch hit should be allowed? Or is it judging getting into position early that bugs you?

Timing. Love the switch hit, it's amazing to see. So it's just the timing. I'm pretty sure I've seen KP switch hits which are timed well, so he was just jumping the gun a bit at times for me (and dilshan, obviously.)

And it should be noted, if the bowler doesn't complain, I won't either. Pretty much, I'll back a bowler who complains. But I won't abuse a batsman who tries to sneak an advantage, and gets away with it. ala backing up, really.

 

[Spikey]

we're lucky enough to have a user on here who has had the switch hit used on him by david warner, although I think only in training, so come on vic_orthdox, give us your thoughts

 

[BoyBrumby]

Probz the old fart in me, but I'm not a massive fan of the switch hit. If a player swaps his hands over then he's obviously playing left/right handed. Unfair to the bowler as he can't do the same.

The switch hit's appeal is just of the Ronnie O'Sullivan "Ooo he can play left-handed too." novelty value.

Ah, bugger. Tipped over the bar. If Bres was a coupla inches taller...

 

[Migara]

Sky showed a possible red mark on the ba after the ball passed. High possibility that it was a little feather.

Dilshan would have felt if he has hit it, especially if there was a red mark, must have been a healthy nick. Then it would be foolish to review when you know you have hit it, or you are a top class idiot. Dilshan is an idiot, but. even an idiot of his class wouldn't have reviewed if he has hit it.

In the last match he and a few other players were walking on the pitch a bit too much. After the appeal for Cook in the 4th innings at Galle all the players went and stood in the danger area of e pitch, and when Dilshan had a possible caught and bowled he ran down the middle of the pitch in his follow through which wasn't necessary. There was also thaqt incident with Pietersen when he practically refused to bowl, whenever Pietersen was about to play a swith hit, resulting in Pietersen being warned for time wasting when in actual fact it was Dilshan who was wasting time.

BS. Dilshan did pull out of his delivery stride once. But on other occasion KP was switching far too early. Ideally both should have been warned and asked to continue. Dilshan should have asked PJ to get to the legside of KP if he switch hits and fire it down the original legside as there is no issue with wides here. But if the law is not changed in ODIs, I am completely with Dilshan of pulling out of the delivery because anything down the legside will be wided.