It doesn't change the fact that he battled and battled and battled for over a hundred deliveries before he was able to cash in.tooextracool said:its good to see that vaughan has gradually started to play like the vaughan of old in this inning, of course there isnt much doubt that the conditions have too have gotten better to bat in this session.
doesnt that make the inning even better? personally i wouldnt mind someone who looked completely out of sorts and managed to survive ball after ball in unfavourably batting conditions before finally getting the right conditions and having the ball go from the middle off the bat to get his runs. its somewhat of a hussain type innings or what atherton calls 'ugly runs'.Mr Casson said:It doesn't change the fact that he battled and battled and battled for over a hundred deliveries before he was able to cash in.
no because unlike tresco, his problems are temperamental. we've all seen that he can bat in both favourable and unfavourable conditions at home.twctopcat said:He's not in tres class though, i hope.
I'd prefer that then flashing and having no chance of getting back some form though.Mr Casson said:It doesn't change the fact that he battled and battled and battled for over a hundred deliveries before he was able to cash in.
tooextracool said:doesnt that make the inning even better? personally i wouldnt mind someone who looked completely out of sorts and managed to survive ball after ball in unfavourably batting conditions before finally getting the right conditions and having the ball go from the middle off the bat to get his runs. its somewhat of a hussain type innings or what atherton calls 'ugly runs'.
Sorry guys, I was trying to say the same thing. I was trying to credit Vaughan for sticking it out so long through the rough patches.twctopcat said:I'd prefer that then flashing and having no chance of getting back some form though.
Man that feels like a long time ago... Harmison the all-rounder...Scaly piscine said:Oh great, they're coming back just long enough for England to get polished off in the bowler-friendly conditions and then for SA to be offered bad light.
Phew,tooextracool said:no because unlike tresco, his problems are temperamental. we've all seen that he can bat in both favourable and unfavourable conditions at home.
Didnt he get a hundred in New Zealand?tooextracool said:on flintoff, who really is making a mockery of himself at the crease, its interesting to note that hes never actually done well away from home with the bat.
I take it you're referring to them going off for bad light, in theory they're supposed to just walk off as soon as you get those 4 distinct shadows for each player. England were kind of lucky to get an extra hour out of tonight according to what was said on the radio when technically they should have been off when they offered light to England and they stayed on.Mr Casson said:I've had it up to here with Steve Bucknor. He is an absolute travesty. Where the hell does he get off making decisions that are reserved for the players to make? Compounded with his horrible decisions so far in this series I'm joining the "Bucknor for retirement" brigade.
Its just a matter of time till he gets a 50 surely?Scaly piscine said:Man that feels like a long time ago... Harmison the all-rounder...
Coolio.Mr Casson said:Sorry guys, I was trying to say the same thing. I was trying to credit Vaughan for sticking it out so long through the rough patches.
Hopefully only a matter of a few hours, maybe he should move ahead of Hoggard in the batting order?SpaceMonkey said:Its just a matter of time till he gets a 50 surely?
And one in WI. Of course, he's only had the one winter away since he was recognised to have stopped being idiotic as a batsman.SpaceMonkey said:Didnt he get a hundred in New Zealand?Originally Posted by tooextracool
on flintoff, who really is making a mockery of himself at the crease, its interesting to note that hes never actually done well away from home with the bat.
yes he did, a 137. but he followed that series up with a 14 and 19 average against SL and india at home which led most people to believe that it was just another one of those out of the blue innings. its only since the series against SA in 03 that hes showed signs of maturity with the bat though, and all of it unfortunately has been at home.SpaceMonkey said:Didnt he get a hundred in New Zealand?
the 100 in the WI though was littered with dropped catches and the 4 innings before that were characteristic of the immature flintoff.badgerhair said:And one in WI. Of course, he's only had the one winter away since he was recognised to have stopped being idiotic as a batsman.
Cheers,
Mike
He has lost it right from India's last tour of AustraliaMr Casson said:I've had it up to here with Steve Bucknor. He is an absolute travesty. Where the hell does he get off making decisions that are reserved for the players to make? Compounded with his horrible decisions so far in this series I'm joining the "Bucknor for retirement" brigade.