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***Official*** England in Pakistan

Neil Pickup

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grecian said:
What a catch, best I've seen in a while :)
Arguably better than Strauss-v-Gilchrist.

This time it's Ash's turn to get the hard luck of an LBW shout - looked dead to me.
 

Prince EWS

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tomas19281 said:
he's a young lad that was picked from club cricket and thrown in the test arena. He did bloody well in my opinion. And has showed true potential to become a cracking player for us. Uninspiring performances is very harsh dude :@ When he exploded on the scene the whole cricketing community when berzerk!!! Hence why he lost some of his edge methinks from the added pressure.






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I was actually defending him, saying that while his test dumping may have been justified, there is no way he should have ever been dropped from the ODI side.
 

wahindiawah

Banned
sheerindianspeed said:
They are not reported because they are NOT PICKED up by the selectors to play for national team!!

Pakistan selectors keep on encouraging and picking up dodgy bowlers.In past it use to be Junaid Zia and Riaz Afridi, and now they have chuckers in Shabbir and Malik in the team.

I think its not enough to just ban a bowler from participating in further matches, a team that has been found playing with chucker should be punished.I recommend the following measures,

--- The result of the match should be reversed in the favor of team that was the victim of chuckers.

--- If a country continue to pick chuckers for test matches every now and then then the ICC should take measures and should appoint an Independent selection committe (either the selectors being from different countries or from neighbouring country) that will make sure that the team doesn't go into test matches with chuckers.

I agree with that. I think if chucking doesn't stop over there then ICC should appoint an Independent Selection committee.
I would personally like to see V Prasad as the chairman of the committe, with other members being, Srinath, Aravinda Desilva and Ravi Shashtri.
 

nehrafan

Banned
England Right on top of the game in second test match!!!

Pak are 100-3 with the top 3 batters all gone back to pavillion, and the last recognized pair of Inzi and Yousuf is on crease.Afridi and Akmal are the only batters left and others are just tail enders.I think England would be looking to bowl out Pak for a total less than 200 and would then be looking to take a big lead .
 

luckyeddie

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Mecnun said:
What's your view on Harbijan Singh then, does he chuck or ever has chucked??
Any bowler who has his sleeves buttoned down is unsure of his own action, so why should anyone else be sure?
 

nehrafan

Banned
Considering Pak has a long tail, what was the point of playing the match with just 4 specialist batters ???

Pak should have played Asim at number six and Afridi at number seven, packing the side with bowlers and allrounders at the expence of specialist batsmen is plain stupid.
 

Prince EWS

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nehrafan said:
Considering Pak has a long tail, what was the point of playing the match with just 4 specialist batters ???

Pak should have played Asim at number six and Afridi at number seven, packing the side with bowlers and allrounders at the expence of specialist batsmen is plain stupid.
Malik is being picked as a specialist though. The selectors believe he is the best player available for that opening position on his batting alone.

I think Asim Kamal should have played instead of Afridi.
 

wahindiawah

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THis is a dead wicket and on such a pitch Pak should have been looking for a score of 400 (MINIMUM) but it looks to me that they will only get to about 200-225.

Certainly Pak batters have wasted a golden opportunity.England are certainly on top now and must be extremely pleased with the situation.
 

luckyeddie

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nehrafan said:
Considering Pak has a long tail, what was the point of playing the match with just 4 specialist batters ???

Pak should have played Asim at number six and Afridi at number seven, packing the side with bowlers and allrounders at the expence of specialist batsmen is plain stupid.
Seeing as the pair at the wicket have shared 8 century partnerships in the past, I think we can take it as read that Pakistan have at least 5 worthy of the name 'batsman'.
 

Neil Pickup

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There's very little chance of their being bowled out sub-225. It only needs one partnership to get there - and Inzy & Yousuf have now added fifty for the fourth wicket. Afridi, Akmal and Rana are all useful - I think 300-320 is around par from here.
 

wahindiawah

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Neil Pickup said:
. Afridi, Akmal and Rana are all useful - I think 300-320 is around par from here.
The only problem with these are that none of them are known for playing long innings. If Pakistan are to get to a total of 300, then Inzi and Yousuf will have to score most of the runs.

I still think that Moin KHan would have been a much better choice as a batting keeper for test side than Akmal.
 

Prince EWS

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luckyeddie said:
Seeing as the pair at the wicket have shared 8 century partnerships in the past, I think we can take it as read that Pakistan have at least 5 worthy of the name 'batsman'.
I think he was discluding Malik from his list of batsmen.
 

Hazza

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wahindiawah said:
Afridi can be of a great use with the ball , especially in the second innings.I don' think plying him will be Pak's mistake.
Maybe he adds another string to Pakistan's bow, but I doubt he has the application to score highly for his team when they really need him. I think Kamal would've been a wiser choice.
 

nehrafan

Banned
luckyeddie said:
Seeing as the pair at the wicket have shared 8 century partnerships in the past, I think we can take it as read that Pakistan have at least 5 worthy of the name 'batsman'.

Malik is not a specialist batsman, he's an allrounder who is being tried as an opener in this test series.
 

luckyeddie

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nehrafan said:
Malik is not a specialist batsman, he's an allrounder who is being tried as an opener in this test series.
Rubbish. You won't see him bowl again, therefore he is being played as a specialist batsman..
 

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