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***Official*** England in India

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Anil said:
india need to take quick wickets on the second day or this test match could slip away real fast.....why did dravid have to insert the opposition in the one time he won the toss?:@
Probably because he reckoned that England's quicks would be far more of a handful in conditions on the 1st morning on this wicket that their spinners are likely to be on Day 5. By the time India get to bat, all the juice will have been sucked from the pitch, and they should have no problem saving the game, or even setting up a win if England collapse tomorrow morning. If India needed to win, he would probably have batted first. As they don't, he probably thought there was less chance of India losing batting second.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
wpdavid said:
Probably because he reckoned that England's quicks would be far more of a handful in conditions on the 1st morning on this wicket that their spinners are likely to be on Day 5. By the time India get to bat, all the juice will have been sucked from the pitch, and they should have no problem saving the game, or even setting up a win if England collapse tomorrow morning. If India needed to win, he would probably have batted first. As they don't, he probably thought there was less chance of India losing batting second.
Or he could have just bollixed it up.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
luckyeddie said:
Or he could have just bollixed it up.
Well yes, there is always that possibility. I think that his thinking was probably along the lines I suggested, but I think that he never thought we'd pass 200 for only one wicket. So whilst I think I understand his thought process, I think he did in fact get it wrong.
 

Neil Pickup

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wpdavid said:
Well yes, there is always that possibility. I think that his thinking was probably along the lines I suggested, but I think that he never thought we'd pass 200 for only one wicket. So whilst I think I understand his thought process, I think he did in fact get it wrong.
If RMcD's thought processes were owt like as convoluted as that, there's every chance he confused the pants off himself.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
Bell is the highest runscorer this winter yet still seems to be the most in threat...
By a slim margin no doubt, it doesn't alter the fact Collingwood averages 42.91 against Test opposition and when you remove Bell's freebies against Bangladesh he averages 30.77. It's a no-brainer unless you're a rabid Warwicks fan - especially if you've seen Bell bat for England.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Heh @ match odds on cricinfo (bet365)... they've got India 12/5, England 13/5... ridiculous. How the hell can India be favourites (ignoring the draw)?
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
Scaly piscine said:
Heh @ match odds on cricinfo (bet365)... they've got India 12/5, England 13/5... ridiculous. How the hell can India be favourites (ignoring the draw)?
:huh: There's 4 whole days to go. :mellow:
 

IndianByHeart

U19 Vice-Captain
Scaly piscine said:
Heh @ match odds on cricinfo (bet365)... they've got India 12/5, England 13/5... ridiculous. How the hell can India be favourites (ignoring the draw)?
They can't be fav's but they can still win the match.If they can bowl out England for a score of say 350, and then go on and take a 75-100 run lead then i would back India to win the match .

Right now though England are in a very safe position.
 

kvemuri

U19 12th Man
marc71178 said:
Unlucky when half of his wickets have been umpiring errors?

Ahh that was one KP wkt and till that time KP himself had been riding great luck being reprieved by umpires, even the third umpire, and being dropped by the players in this series.

Coming back to Harbhajan over the past three series (including SLK) he has been bowling tripe. Even if he ends up getting 5 wkts in an innings here I think the Indian think tank needs to evaluate his position in the team imo.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Great innings by Strauss, absolutely brilliant. Just what he needed really.

Regarding Dravid's decision to bowl first... :ph34r:
 

IndianByHeart

U19 Vice-Captain
Never under estimate your opponents, thats the rule in cricket.Dravid probably did that when he won the toss and asked England to bat, how costly this mistake will be remains to be seen.If India manages to bowl out Eng for 350-375, then its fine, anything above that would be troublesome.
 

adharcric

International Coach
IndianByHeart said:
Never under estimate your opponents, thats the rule in cricket.Dravid probably did that when he won the toss and asked England to bat, how costly this mistake will be remains to be seen.If India manages to bowl out Eng for 350-375, then its fine, anything above that would be troublesome.
Uhh yeah, but you do make plans based upon expectations of your own team and the other team. Dravid's decision wouldn't look so bad if Pathan didn't bowl tripe with the new ball. Frankly, the English top-order (Strauss) exceeded the expectations they had set through this series and the Indian new-ball attack didn't live up to the expectations that have been built thus far in this series (after the impressive showings from Sreesanth and Munaf).

Still, 4 days to go ... should be interesting to watch.
 

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