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[marc71178]

Semi Interesting fact 2:
The average length of time in overs it has taken to dismiss those teams in the 4th innings has been 91.2 overs (ranging from 90 to 92.3 overs).

So if the trend continues, expect to see India scrape a draw ...probably with one wicket in hand.

With Python at one end, might there not be more than 90 overs if England have a chance?

 

[luckyeddie]

Collingwood should be ahead of Cook in my opinion, Collingwood's first innings was massively important, Cook's 100 was ok but was slow and didn't help England anywhere near as much.

I'm with you on this one. If England win or even draw, Collingwood's first innings knock will have been a hugely significant factor.

 

[Swervy]

I think it's partially to do with needing to play their way in on that wicket.

To be fair to Cook, I think you can excuse him on the basis of his age and the last week he's had.

thats right, Cook played the role that was required really well. People seem to forget that he was probably under instruction to play pretty much like he did...and although yeah it was frustrating to watch, because ultimatly we all what to be entertained and I think most people thought we would be seeing a 200 run session or something, the reality was that it was a perfectly timed innings by KP,Cook and Collingwood on a pitch which really isnt going to allow much more than 3 rpo for any period of time.

The game is set up pretty much perfectly to get England a victory, more so than if they had another 50 on the board.

 

[Swervy]

With Python at one end, might there not be more than 90 overs if England have a chance?

maybe, but I doubt that will be Englands best option for taking wickets and therefore winning. Englands strength is the pace attack and so I cant really see England doing more than 15 overs an hour

 

[Scaly piscine]

maybe, but I doubt that will be Englands best option for taking wickets and therefore winning. Englands strength is the pace attack and so I cant really see England doing more than 15 overs an hour

I wish just once that England would get their overs in really fast, just so that it gives them an option to get 95-100 overs in. They can always slow down later if India threaten to get near the target. I must say I was surprised India bowled the full quota of overs earlier today - something Pakistan wouldn't have done that's for certain, India are now moving way up my second favourite team list especially now Ganguly isn't playing

 

[Swervy]

I wish just once that England would get their overs in really fast, just so that it gives them an option to get 95-100 overs in. They can always slow down later if India threaten to get near the target. I must say I was surprised India bowled the full quota of overs earlier today - something Pakistan wouldn't have done that's for certain, India are now moving way up my second favourite team list especially now Ganguly isn't playing

I think we would all love all teams to be doing the 15 overs an hour...but I guess its going to be hard to maintain a decent over rate in 35C heat with a predominately pace attack

 

[marc71178]

For posterity (one of a number of posts where Cook was written off by a certain forum member)

http://forum.cricketweb.net/showpost.php?p=218743&postcount=134

 

[steds]

To be fair, he's only played one test so far. He does look to be made of the right stuff, but it might be downhill from here.

 

[luckyeddie]

With Python at one end, might there not be more than 90 overs if England have a chance?

Only if you cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with ..... a herring!!!

/Ni

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

To be fair, he's only played one test so far. He does look to be made of the right stuff, but it might be downhill from here.

And the Test isn't even done yet. He's still got lots of time to drop several crucial catches and contribute to a devastating England defeat.

 

[adharcric]

Yea, just a cakewalk to chase 368 down 4.09 an over at really when India managed 323 at a run-rate of 2.36 in their first innings.

You do realize that Laxman, Tendulkar and Dravid all went cheaply or on rare gems, as did Sehwag. England have a chance of bowling India out, but don't count out the Indians. This is a real chance to prove that they are a lineup of genuine class and not just guys with good records who have lost it.

 

[Anil]

You do realize that Laxman, Tendulkar and Dravid all went cheaply or on rare gems, as did Sehwag. England have a chance of bowling India out, but don't count out the Indians. This is a real chance to prove that they are a lineup of genuine class and not just guys with good records who have lost it.

there is no chance of the indians winning this one....there is however an excellent chance of them losing it....with just a day's play left, my only hope is that 2-3 of the top and middle order players will have enough spine and bat long enough to hold out for a draw.....

 

[Jono]

Wow, absolutely tough this one. England in a strong position, and surely they will declare straight away today.

Didn't get to see much of it at all as I was out all arvo and night on Saturday, but it sounds like India were pretty damn dismal, caught a bit of bad luck, and England made them pay with some excellent batting. They've really surprised me this test match, have really put India under the pump.

 

[Sanz]

I just cant see how or why he is an absolute dead cert for being picked by India...he just isnt performing. Apart from that 3 innings purple patch when he scored about 500 runs without getting dismissed, he basically has done nothing for 4 years of much note. I cannot think of any other player who has ever been afforded a guaranteed place in a test team after so much medicority over such a long period of time. It is this kind of reluctance to face reality which will continue to keep India away from being a consistantly elite team.

I am sure he will now go on to destroy England in the rest of the series

Edit: I just had a look at how Sachin , who incidentally I used to find a complete joy to watch a few years ago, has done recently on statsguru. If you take away any games vs B'desh, since the end of 2002, he has batted 38 times, failed to reach double figures 14 times, failed to reach 30 24 times, and in his last 10 innings, he has failed to reach 30 9 times.

Even with the record breaking trio of innings of 241*,60*,194*, his average vs everyone other than B'desh is only 40...in the remaining 35 innings he averages 25

Well, there are many people in India who think that Sachin is either out of form or has lost interest but you know there are these hawks. You dont have to go anywhere to see that, there are many on this forum who get hysterical at the mere suggestion.

 

[Hazza]

I think India have a very small chance of winning, but, if Shewag gets going, then England could find themselves in trouble. Test on Flintoff's captaincy if Shewag is in at Lunch with India chasing.

 

[Sanz]

3 overs gone and not a single run scored off the bat.. So No India has no chance of winning this, I am afraid If our players dont play their natural game, we are going to lose.

 

[Jamee999]

THROUGH THE GATE!

Sehwag b Hoggard 0

Great start!

 

[Sanz]

1.0 in 4.2 overs. Oops 1/1

 

[Hazza]

Hoggard, again, makes the breakthrough

 

[Barney Rubble]

Sehwag gone! India's chances of winning go with him. Great stuff Hoggy!