marc71178 said:And is this Tests or ODI?
Either way I feel he's a bit low there.
Better bowler than JK and better with the bat than SP.
Well, Kallis I'll give you, but Pollock...errrm...no, sorry I can't. Yes Flintoff has a better average and has just hit Bangladesh for 2 unbeaten 50s but Pollock is a member of such a strong batting order that he has to bat really low and when he comes out he's usually only got a few overs to hit out. In Tests he shows his real ability, an average of 33+ shows his talent, despite batting low down again. I'm not going to just go on Stats, I look at Pollock and I look at Flintoff and Pollock has the technique of a top order batsman, just the mentality of a man batting in his position and who knows he has to open the bowling soon anyway.marc71178 said:I missed out the One Day part - in One days he's definitely a better bowler than Kallis (Avg 24.46 vs 30.81, S/R 34.9 vs 39.2, Eco 4.20 vs 4.70) and better batsman than Pollock (Avg 29.84 vs. 23.43, 10 50's in 56 innings vs. 7 in 132)
Yet it is not ok for me to use stats in my post for my arguements, yet it is ok for you to do that.marc71178 said:I missed out the One Day part - in One days he's definitely a better bowler than Kallis (Avg 24.46 vs 30.81, S/R 34.9 vs 39.2, Eco 4.20 vs 4.70) and better batsman than Pollock (Avg 29.84 vs. 23.43, 10 50's in 56 innings vs. 7 in 132)
???Craig said:Yet it is not ok for me to use stats in my post for my arguements, yet it is ok for you to do that.
Hypocrite.
I wonder whether Strauss will play at Dambulla on Friday, in preparation for him being given the nod for the SL games.Rik said:Solanki finishes the series with 11 runs at an average of 3.66, he's now made only 2 scores over 12 since his return to the England ODI side, a 50 and that 106...seriously I don't know why they didn't give Strauss a go,
Doubt it, the England selectors decided Solanki was good enough earlier this season and anything that endangers that view (like someone doing better), will not be allowed to happen to save their faces.badgerhair said:I wonder whether Strauss will play at Dambulla on Friday, in preparation for him being given the nod for the SL games.
Cheers,
Mike
*Waits with intrigue for the team to be announced for Dambulla*Rik said:Doubt it, the England selectors decided Solanki was good enough earlier this season and anything that endangers that view (like someone doing better), will not be allowed to happen to save their faces.
*Also waits with intrigue*Neil Pickup said:*Waits with intrigue for the team to be announced for Dambulla*
*Expects Strauss to play*
*Hasn't disagreed with the selectors much of late*
* consults PwC *Langeveldt said:1.J Kallis
2.C Cairns (when bowling at full fitness)
3.S Pollock
4.A Flintoff
There is nothing special about his bowling.marc71178 said:* unsure why Strauss was selected for the One Day side anyway, but hopes to see him replace Solanki *
* agrees with Neil re: selectors *
* wonders how long Freddie's run of form with bat AND ball will continue *
Now I've been one of Freddie's staunchest critics of late, but even I can't agree with this.Craig said:There is nothing special about his bowling.
And his form with the bat will run until he faces some quality bowling in the name of Vaas and Murali.
From what I saw in the summer, a lot of them were from good bowling. You can't fluke a fast-decreasing econ-rate. Believe me when Flintoff pulls on the blue PJs he becomes a totally different player.Craig said:How much of his wickets were from good bowling rather then batsmen getting themselves out?
According to the PwC, he's 6th in bowling and 20th in battingCraig said:Oh know that and have felt he is better in the one-day game then in the longer version of the game, I just dont see his bowling very good.
Oh and btw Marc could you give a link to the PwC Ratings, as I had a look on the 'net at one set of ratings and there was not a chance in hell that Flintoff was in the top ten for batting and bowling.
These were the ICC ratings and are just about up today by a couple of days.