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**Official Comm Bank Series - Aus, Ind & SL ODI's***

Spark

Global Moderator
Dhoni saying earlier in the series when Vinay Kumar was going across like Lee at Brisbane and came in the way of a batsman running, the umpire had come across and told him you can't do that and obstruct the runner.

Didn't hear clearly but i think he said the umpire was Bowden even then. ITSTL.
Bowden is a **** umpire?

This is news to me.
 

irfan

State Captain
Dhoni gets lucky pretty damn often.
Yeah, he's better than most at making it work but it's such a high risk strategy that you look extremely daft when it doesn't.

I am not saying be aggressive and go for big shots early on but rather minimise your dot ball % and look to rotate the strike if the situation doesn't demand risky shots.
 

uvelocity

International Coach
confused captain:
MSD said:
"I can't pinpoint one particular reason. We need to bat well. Also I have lost most of the tosses and we have had to bat second under lights which is a difficult thing. We haven't been able to perform to our potential," Dhoni stated at the post-match presentation ceremony.
MSD said:
"I am not good in mathematics and I would rather concentrate on my on-field job."
Can't pinpoint one particular reason for failure: MS Dhoni - Indian Express
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Warner batted very well but simply threw his wicket away, putting his team in trouble in the process.

Deserved a kick up the arse as much as MOTM
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
In the Indian team, the bowlers who can bat a bit are getting wickets and a few runs. The batsmen who can bowl a bit (and bowl a lot here) are neither getting wickets nor runs. They still struggle to take middle-overs wickets, often underscored when you look at fours and sixes hit in the closing overs. This should be looked into, and selection should be planned accordingly. Five proper bowlers, with Ashwin, Irfan and Praveen in the XI regularly, should be the way to go. Not overbowling a struggling Sehwag, Raina, Rohit or Kohli, or persisting with a lemon like Jadeja.

Compare Raina's all-round record, or Rohit's, with Jadeja's, and you'd wonder why one bloke is free of most of the criticism. These two blokes put a lot at stake for the team, though the team puts a lot at stake for the third, who uses his place in the team to make easy big money. All of them have been poor with the bat. One of them, a good bloke with the bat, has been shown the bench a lot sooner, because he's struggling, but the other, a very poor bat, still enjoys the confidence of the management, because he can chuck an orange sixty times.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Wait, did you just say Jadeja doesn't get criticised enough?

Wow.

He's probably the most derided player in the history of cricket. You alone bring him up randomly in enough of your posts to take up half the quota, even when you're posting about domestic cricket that he's not playing in.
 
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Furball

Evil Scotsman
Wierdly, Jadeja seems to be rated more by non-Indian fans on this forum.

He's a much better cricketer than Suresh Raina.
 

abmk

State 12th Man
Wierdly, Jadeja seems to be rated more by non-Indian fans on this forum.

He's a much better cricketer than Suresh Raina.
LULZ, what ???

Suresh Raina >>>> Ravindra Jadeja, any day of the week, any place .....( Raina is average and Jadeja downright mediocre )
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
You know what's so wrong with Jadeja getting game after game without being in danger of even rotated? Three years of mediocrity should tell you.
  1. He's picked ahead of better batsmen as a bowling all-rounder.
  2. Yet we find that he's bowling under a great deal of protection, while India's top bowlers are thrown to the wolves. Jadeja is by no stretch of imagination a capable new-ball, powerplay or closing overs bowler.
  3. Bowling all-rounder. Yet he cannot be bowled against a team full of lefties.
  4. Bowling all-rounder. Yet has barely a wicket a game, poor average, poor strike rate and poor economy despite the protection. Vinay Kumar figures better in the firing line.
  5. Offers nothing with the bat, yet much better batsmen are criticised when they're off form, but he's excused when being out of his depth.
  6. Plenty of batsmen bat better than him. Plenty of bowlers bowl better than him. They offer at least as much at the other skill. There are other bits-and-pieces players who add more to their place than he does.
You know why I'm so aghast that Jadeja still plays for India? He should have been banned for five years after that dross attempt at using his India cap to bargain for a 30-million rupee IPL contract. Even as so-called T20 specialist Yusuf Pathan wants to play Tests- fair, that's a pipe dream, but this is an outright steal. The India cap is something to be valued, cherished, and every one earned. He's been gifted his India caps, every one of them, while comparable or better players have to slog to earn one. And he's used the India cap to bargain. Beyond dire.

Elsewhere, after the T20I against India, George Bailey turned up for his Ryobi Cup side and played the game. Jadeja, on the other hand, was basking in his gifted riches after the ODIs against the West Indies, when he should have represented Saurashtra. There are people who slog in domestic cricket, and earn their spurs there. They earn their India caps. They lose their places in the Indian team because nobody's patient, or backed by a lobby. Like him. You talk of IPL's ill effects. You talk of spoilt brat youngsters created by the IPL. Then you have him.
 

AaronK

State Regular
I feel like indians are tired.. they want to return home.. It has been a tough and tiring tour for them..

with that said.. I still feel like they are heavily relaying on bits and pieces type of players..

players like irfan pathan, Jadeja and raina shouldn't have been given as many chances as many as they got.. certainly if india wants to keep them in the team.. then don't have them play in pitches like england and Aus.. this goes to raina specially who struggles with short ball.. and jadeja.. who can barely ball to save his life..
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Indians have looked shot since the second test IN ENGLAND

Aside from a couple of players, they have no stomach for the fight and are really lucky that they arent touring SA next as they'd be white-washed again
 

Cricketismylife

U19 12th Man
Irfan is a much better player than Jadeja, both in terms of potential and performace. Jadeja is the definition of bits and pieces. Suresh Raina is also a more useful player than Jadeja. Raina has plenty of technical deficiences, but on flatter one day surfaces he isnt as exposed and his ball striking is very clean on both the offside and the legside. Raina and Irfan at least can scare the opposition and put in a big performance, whereas in general Jadeja wont scare anyone. His bowling can just be milked and his batting is just a support act at number 7.

Off topic Australia will be much more dangerous now that Watson is back. I reckon if I had to choose one player to play in a World odi team, he would be first pick, ahead of players like Ajmal and Dhoni.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Indians have looked shot since the second test IN ENGLAND

Aside from a couple of players, they have no stomach for the fight and are really lucky that they arent touring SA next as they'd be white-washed again
Pretty sure there is a lot going on within the team, for me.. There just seems to be one too many prima donnas in the side right now, and unlike this time last year, they seem to be having egos the sizes of their bellies... The board is not strong enough to do anything as al they care about is the money and the sponsor cheques... Unlike Sri Lanka, India does not have a couple of senior cricketers for whom being a good cricketer and being part of a good cricket team actually matters.
 

Viscount Tom

International Debutant
Raina would improve as a player tenfold if he didn't bother with the IPL and played some matches in England or South Africa instead, heck the increased bounce on them will at least allow our county coaches to help him work through the short ball problem.

He's got a superb eye and is a top notch fielder but he really needs to play against quality seam on pitches that offer a bit to them other wise he'll just be a wasted talent. Jadeja on the other hand make some of the England picks of the past few decades look amazing, he's that much of a bits and pieces.

Dhoni's just a whingeing fool. Play like a tool then blame it on the Aussies cheating. Muppet.
 

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