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***Official*** Bangladesh in Sri Lanka 2017

Burgey

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Nice to wake up and read Bangladesh won. Would've been a heartbreaker if they hadn't after they got themselves into such a good position. WD them.
 

mackembhoy

International Regular
Comparing Bangladesh's record in their first 100 tests to everyone else.

England (1877-1909): Won 45, lost 38, drew 17.

Australia (1877-1912): Won 42, lost 40, drew 18.

South Africa (1889-1949): Won 15, lost 52, drew 33

West Indies (1928-1965): Won 35, lost 33, drew 31, tied 1

New Zealand (1930-1972): Won 7, lost 46, drew 47

India (1932-1967): Won 10, lost 40, drew 50

Pakistan (1952-1979): Won 19, lost 26, drew 55

Sri Lanka (1982-2000): Won 18, lost 40, drew 42

Zimbabwe (1994-2016): Won 11, lost 63, drew 26

Bangladesh (2000-2017): Won 9, lost 76, drew 15

Bangladesh have actually won a similar amount of their first 100 tests than a few other sides, including those that had decades to establish themselves rather than what Bangladesh have now which is only their second generation of test players. But they've lost far, far more and this is despite going through a long period of actually trying to draw Tests at home. Does their record being the worst indicate where they're staying? Probably not. But it does feel like, if Bangladesh are now an established side, they might have skipped a step.
I think it's worth noting post 00 the other teams have had plenty of ATG's playing.

A fair few of them teams played their first 100 tests against a lesser amount of top quality. Although uncovered pitches makes that argument a tad pointless.
 
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Athlai

Not Terrible
NZ 1930: Won 0, Lost 5, Draw 9
NZ 1940: Won 0, Lost 1, Draw 5
NZ 1950: Won 1, Lost 21, Draw 10
NZ 1960: Won 6, Lost 18, Draw 19
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Comparing Bangladesh's record in their first 100 tests to everyone else.

England (1877-1909): Won 45, lost 38, drew 17.

Australia (1877-1912): Won 42, lost 40, drew 18.

South Africa (1889-1949): Won 15, lost 52, drew 33

West Indies (1928-1965): Won 35, lost 33, drew 31, tied 1

New Zealand (1930-1972): Won 7, lost 46, drew 47

India (1932-1967): Won 10, lost 40, drew 50

Pakistan (1952-1979): Won 19, lost 26, drew 55

Sri Lanka (1982-2000): Won 18, lost 40, drew 42

Zimbabwe (1994-2016): Won 11, lost 63, drew 26

Bangladesh (2000-2017): Won 9, lost 76, drew 15

Bangladesh have actually won a similar amount of their first 100 tests than a few other sides, including those that had decades to establish themselves rather than what Bangladesh have now which is only their second generation of test players. But they've lost far, far more and this is despite going through a long period of actually trying to draw Tests at home. Does their record being the worst indicate where they're staying? Probably not. But it does feel like, if Bangladesh are now an established side, they might have skipped a step.
Yes, but many of those wins came against particularly feeble Zimbabwe and West Indies sides. They've probably only had 3 or 4 wins against legit opposition (England, Srl, and a maybe a couple against Zimbabwe when they were between their 04-07 and post '15 troughs). Their introduction to test cricket was undoubtedly rushed. But they appear to be more or less at the minimum standard now. I'd say they're now in a pretty similar place to where Zimbabwe were in the 90's and are obviously much better positioned to build on that. Seems unlikely that they would've gotten here without being given the regular cricket that they've had. Hoping to see them get more games against top flight opposition, especially at home, from now on.
 

vitalogy83

U19 Debutant
Congrats to the BD team and their fans here. An excellent outcome, and as I thought you might, handled our spinners relatively well in that chase to get the job done.

While it is thrilling to see the rise of BD, under a Lankan no less, it is equally disappointing to see the downward slide of SL continue. The Aus series win, ihmo was a bit of an anomaly in terms of the results we are like to see in the next couple of years..its pretty frustrating when nothing is done to improve the domestic setup. We are a side that depends on superstars and not the system to keep up a float but it's hard to see where the next big name is coming from. Mendis seems like the only safe bet but even he has a long way to go. De Silva has been super disapointing since that Aus series..Spin dept looks strong. Fast bowlers are breaking down like no ones business. We can't seem to catch a cold. Actually the fielding has been pretty disgusting for the last 6 months..from catching to ground fielding - it's like they don't even care tbh..
 

Prince EWS

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Yes, but many of those wins came against particularly feeble Zimbabwe and West Indies sides. They've probably only had 3 or 4 wins against legit opposition (England, Srl, and a maybe a couple against Zimbabwe when they were between their 04-07 and post '15 troughs). Their introduction to test cricket was undoubtedly rushed. But they appear to be more or less at the minimum standard now. I'd say they're now in a pretty similar place to where Zimbabwe were in the 90's and are obviously much better positioned to build on that. Seems unlikely that they would've gotten here without being given the regular cricket that they've had. Hoping to see them get more games against top flight opposition, especially at home, from now on.
Yeah even if you spot them all their wins against Zimbabwe, their wins against the West Indies team they beat definitely shouldn't count. It was a completely ridiculous situation.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
NZ 1930: Won 0, Lost 5, Draw 9
NZ 1940: Won 0, Lost 1, Draw 5
NZ 1950: Won 1, Lost 21, Draw 10
NZ 1960: Won 6, Lost 18, Draw 19

India 1930: Won 0, Lost 5, Draw 2
India 1940: Won 0, Lost 6, Draw 7
India 1950: Won 6, Lost 17, Draw 21

Working into that generation of cricketers before getting competitive idea.
 

DriveClub

International Regular
While I agree bd was introduced early they have skipped a beat in their transition. From being not even associate level to suddenly having quite a few quality players in their ranks right now. Tamim, shakib would walk into a couple of test teams right now.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
They'd have definitely lost that tour imo. Especially if they went with the same squad. Voges and Khawaja would've been destroyed.
You reckon? In Oct 2015 when that tour was scheduled?

That is before their England win of last year and before the emergence of Mehedi.

And they were still pretty **** in the tests they played in 2015.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
While I agree bd was introduced early they have skipped a beat in their transition. From being not even associate level to suddenly having quite a few quality players in their ranks right now. Tamim, shakib would walk into a couple of test teams right now.
I think they have had a decent batting line up for a while. I mean Tamim, Mushfiq, Shakib, Mahmudullah have been playing for a few years now and have been for most part pretty solid. Add that to the ridiculously long batting line ups they always picked, they have been posting solid totals for a while now..I remember even against West Indies in 2012 they posted decent totals. The problem was their bowling which wasn't really test standard and they would barely bowl out a team once until the emergence of Mustafiz in 2015 and Mehedi last year. Now that they have 2 test standard bowlers alongside Shakib, you are seeing a different level of competitiveness from them now.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Fantastic achievement Bangladesh.

Agree with some of the other comments here that the path to a competitive cricket side, especially in tests, seems to depends as much as the development of a culture over time as it does on number of matches played. So it's no surprise that they don't experience much success until the team is made from players who were watching the game as young kids in 2000, when the country was first given Test Status, and have then grown up with that in mind.
 

morgieb

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You reckon? In Oct 2015 when that tour was scheduled?

That is before their England win of last year and before the emergence of Mehedi.

And they were still pretty **** in the tests they played in 2015.
Did do reasonably well against South Africa tbf. 2015 was the signs that the tide was turning for Bangladesh.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Well done Bangladesh. They've built solidly for a few seasons, they are still a slightly overrated ODI side but their Test side is coming on. Reckon they are stronger than the Windies now and on a par with Sri Lanka.
 

viriya

International Captain
Wait.. why did Tamim get MoM??

Shakib had 131 runs and 6 wickets in the match ffs.

Just because his 82 was on the last day doesn't mean he won Ban the match. The bigger contributor by far was Shakib.
 

Burner

International Regular
Thats 82 runs on the last day against Herath and co though. Not quite a walk in the park.
 

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