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***Official*** Bangladesh in NZ 2021-22

honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
straw man said:
Yes it was very 'we've got enough'.

Our tail may genuinely suck away from home but in NZ, like most sides, our tail usually contributes something big. Here it was terrible and some of that was just lax.
Jamieson - 6&0
Southee - 6&0
Wagner - 0&0*
Boult - 9*&8

And add
Blundell - 11&0
Rachin - 4&16

Was just bad.
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Haha literally 6 and nothing from 6thee and Jamie6
 
X

Xix2565

International Regular
Excellent win by Bangladesh, shame I couldn't watch anything but highlights of this game. Did far better than anyone expected.
 
Skyliner

Skyliner

State Captain
Hurricane2 said:
Steve Waugh and Martin Crowe started their careers a slow and unconvincing way. Rachin has youth and high raps on him just like those two did.
Let Rachin learn at number 7 or 6. He will get better. Played hardly any tests so far.
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Could he learn in first class cricket and then join the test side once he is closer to being the finished article?
 
NZTailender

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
straw man said:
Enormous congratulations to the Bangla team and the fans. Historic moment, the culmination of decades of hard work, building, some wrong turns and the determination of the current side.

NZ will be rightly criticised for being off their game, but they didn't gift Bangladesh the match and it was no fluke - Bangladesh played very very well. They stuck in there in the first innings with the ball when it looked bad for them and they earned the chances they took. The batting was very good, very patient, gave nothing away, hit bad balls - doesn't sounds unusual, it was just good test match batting. And that third innings bowling performance by Taskin and Ebadot was full of energy, pace and reverse... even backed up by the fielders a few times. They deserved the win.

Bangladesh have plenty to work with from here, continue to develop this core of seam bowlers and they will continue to be competitive away from home.
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This is probably the most level headed post in the whole thread. It's not like we threw away a game against a sloppy side full of crap players. Test records don't really matter so for all of Ebadots bagging (probably rightly so) he pulled and stunning performance out of his butt. Listening on the radio, it just seemed like for the most part, Bangladesh just stayed disciplined and believed in their abilities and got the job done by being consistent with some hard fought performances with the bat and a match winning spell with the ball (Ebadot). It's essentially their Hobart 2011 - no one expected us to win, and no one really expected a great performance from someone like Bracewell to turn the match. Genuinely hope Ebadot doesn't turn out like Bracewell in tests though, maybe a turning point for the lad.

As for NZ, subconscious complacency maybe. That first innings was a hundred runs short, easily, and that's down to bad discipline from blokes once they were in and spineless, completely non-sensible batting from the tailenders who still believe in the #intent meme. Remember when Wagner and Sodhi (?) saved a test for us vs England, and recently, Patel and Ravindra? Also rather frustrating to hear the radio comms go "well, changes need to be made, and it's going to come from the bowlers." FFS. Another 100 runs on the board and I think we would've greatly challenged Bangladesh in that 4th innings. That said, I remember the addage from pundits back when people would always moot 4 seamers for WACA test - if you can't get the job done with 3 why would a 4th seamer be any better?
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Amazing performance by Bangladesh. Very Pakistan-esque in the way they kept themselves in the game in the first innings then wore down NZ in the second, ambushed them with an awesome spell of reverse late in the third and calmly picked off a small target in the 4th.


The best compliment I can give them is that this was a very professional display. They are missing 3 core members and yet they have been awesome. A lot of credit to Mominul who is very under-stated and rated- but led brilliantly. Full kudos to the coaching staff too, esp. Domingo and Gibson. Proud moment. Hope the owner gives them some good stuff as reward but also, they need to look at this as a first step of a journey towards greatness, not some culmination.

Big congrats to the CW BD fans too. They are very good posters who have stuck by to support their side through such bad losses esp. recently. Enjoy the win boys and may it be the start of many many more to come @AndyZaltzHair @cnerd123 @Aritro
 
Skyliner

Skyliner

State Captain
Latham: "We weren't quite there in all three facets really, Bangladesh certainly showed us how to go about things on that wicket. They were able to build partnerships, apply a lot of pressure and unfortunately we weren't able to do it for long enough. There have been only two Test matches here, both matches have been similar, probably a little bit slower than what we expected and did not quite break up as much. We sort of knew what it would be like, probably looking back at the first innings, the position we were in - if we get 450, then it's probably a different story but full credit to Bangladesh, they thoroughly deserve the win. It hurts but we have got to turn to Christchurch in a few days' time and hopefully we will take the learnings from this and apply them to what will be a different surface at Hagley. Every individual has to reflect on their learnings from what was a slightly different surface here and our focus has got to turn to Hagley and hopefully we can put up a good performance there."
 
Aritro

Aritro

International Regular
honestbharani said:
Amazing performance by Bangladesh. Very Pakistan-esque in the way they kept themselves in the game in the first innings then wore down NZ in the second, ambushed them with an awesome spell of reverse late in the third and calmly picked off a small target in the 4th.


The best compliment I can give them is that this was a very professional display. They are missing 3 core members and yet they have been awesome. A lot of credit to Mominul who is very under-stated and rated- but led brilliantly. Full kudos to the coaching staff too, esp. Domingo and Gibson. Proud moment. Hope the owner gives them some good stuff as reward but also, they need to look at this as a first step of a journey towards greatness, not some culmination.

Big congrats to the CW BD fans too. They are very good posters who have stuck by to support their side through such bad losses esp. recently. Enjoy the win boys and may it be the start of many many more to come @AndyZaltzHair @cnerd123 @Aritro
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Cheers brother. Very proud day for all of us - this is unquestionably our greatest achievement as far as I'm concerned. Worth a lot more than any of the ODI successes, even in tournaments.

I do hope the owner gives them no rewards at all. They need to normalise this ****, not treat it like an Armistice Day-style event of national jubilation like they have in the past.
 
F

Flametree

International 12th Man
Wow. That was quick. Even last night I thought NZ would get out of this somehow. But the two catches today (by a quick bowler and a spinner 12th man) just summed it up. To win this game they had to play 4 days of good, hard, patient, skilful test cricket and they were able to do that. Some moments of fortune went their way of course but you usually need a couple of those to win a test match.

I hope the Hagley pitch isn't too green....
 
Skyliner

Skyliner

State Captain
Lovely comments from Ebadot -

Ebadot Hossain: "First of all thanks to Allah. Secondly, in New Zealand soil, our brothers and teams didn't get win in the last 21 years. We set a goal this time. We raised our hand. We have to beat New Zealand in their own soil. They are Test champions, our next generation has to beat New Zealand.
"In the last two years, I am working with Ottis Gibson. Conditions are always flat at home. We are still learning how to bowl and reverse in away conditions. I am trying to hit the top of the stumps. I needed to be a little patient for success to come.
"I am a soldier of Bangladesh Air Force so I know how to do the salute. It was a long story, from volleyball to cricket. I am enjoying cricket, representing Bangladesh and Bangladesh Air Force."
 
Aritro

Aritro

International Regular
TheJediBrah said:
Without Shakib too. Maybe they're turning a corner
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This is our worst team in many years with senior blokes injured/retired/not arsed enough to turn up and some inexperienced players taking their place. But it just shows the importance of having competent international pace bowlers in your test team if you want to win games. You won't take 20 wickets most of the time, on anything other than pitch-doctored spin surfaces, without your quicks doing some or most of the heavy lifting.

We've got some tough years coming up with Mushfiq, Shakib, Mahmudullah and Tamim being phased out and some very young players being phased in but hopefully if these quicks keep improving at the rate they are they'll avert humiliation while the team's learning.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
For NZ, I wont be pressing any panic buttons just yet. I am not quite sold on Nicholls, Blundell but you got KW coming in to replace Ross and that is about it. I wont be throwing out Rachin just as yet. Perhaps ask him to open if that is his regular slot in domestics, push Will Young to 3, KW to 4 and Conway to 5 and drop Nicholls. This way you get your 5 man seam attack plus a decent backup spin option. They perhaps took them light subconsciously, but same could be said about India in NZ esp. in 2020. I think they were perhaps 5-10% lacking intensity in the first couple of days and at the highest level that is all it takes to be beaten, esp. when the other side are really up for it and have planned for it, which, to their credit, BD were. Also, bin Blundell if he is not up to it but give him the full home season to be fair.

If it was upto me though, I will go with this side and ask for truer pitches at home. You guys are inaugural world champions and its high time you make winning in more normal pitches a habit.


Latham (vc)
Rachin
Young
Kane (c)
Conway
Mitchell (?)
Blundell / next keeper
Jamieson
Southee
Wagner
Ajaz / Boult (only if it is a grasscourt)
 
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