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***Official*** Bangladesh in New Zealand
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I'm not ignoring it. My first thought upon seeing the dismissal was that he gloved it, and my opinion didn't change when I saw a video replay. If I seen another couple and it was clear the ball didn't touch the glove, then I'll admit I'm wrong.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
I thought he gloved it on first reply. Then after about 10 replays, I realised he was absolutely nowhere near it with gloves or the bat. It clearly came off his thigh and nothing else.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Most batsmen doing after a multitude of chances against Bangladesh.Bangladesh!
Catches win matches boys, that's twice Fleming has been dropped and three times for Sinclair. Other than that, the batsmen are looking bloody good.
Sinclair gone, gun for the Bangas.
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Equally Mohammad Ashraful shouldn't have been given out, and would've definitely scored 400
Fulton was out though, and while Bell and Oram were given out incorrectly, it's been far from one-way traffic on the tour. If Bangladesh had managed to hold catches, which they should have done, then Sinclair would've made 13 and Fleming 61. Ohwell.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Yea, every Test I watch gives makes me more convinced that we need a referral system. The players should be the ones who decide the outcome - though obviously NZ should win this comfortably regardless.
James90
Cricketer Of The Year
I should add that Bangladesh's selection policy in dire. They pick up talented cricketers from around the place and have them compete for a place in the U19s team. If anyone performs there they get the selectors full interest and no-one else gets a look in. They rarely pick players on domestic form and those that they have done (Faisal, Alok and Tapash) have failed miserably. If you're 22 and haven't made your international debut you never will.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
It's not such an important Test Match would probably be the answer.
HeathDavisSpeed
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Let's face it guys - the 'poor' decisions in this match - Ashraful, Bell, Oram, Fulton... if you were watching cricket 20 years ago, they would have all been accepted as out, or at least there would have been a lot more doubt over out vs not out.
Ashraful's dismissal had a loud, woody sound as the ball went past him. Unfortunately for him, the ball clipped the pad at the same time as the bat missed the ball. A decent sound, the ball deviated, the bat was near the ball at the time the noise was made. I can understand why this was given out.
Bell equally. After a few replays, the gap between ball & bat could be seen, but the ball hitting the thigh pad again made a 'woody' sound and the ball deviated. The Oram dismissal was very similar in type and before the days of snicko, hawkeye and the high-quality slow-mos we wouldn't have placed so much doubt on the umpire's decisions.
Basically, I don't blame the umpires for the mistakes in this test. They weren't as glaring as some in *that* test a couple of weeks ago. However, as more doubt is placed on the quality of umpiring decisions, that road towards using more technology becomes increasingly appealling.
Ashraful's dismissal had a loud, woody sound as the ball went past him. Unfortunately for him, the ball clipped the pad at the same time as the bat missed the ball. A decent sound, the ball deviated, the bat was near the ball at the time the noise was made. I can understand why this was given out.
Bell equally. After a few replays, the gap between ball & bat could be seen, but the ball hitting the thigh pad again made a 'woody' sound and the ball deviated. The Oram dismissal was very similar in type and before the days of snicko, hawkeye and the high-quality slow-mos we wouldn't have placed so much doubt on the umpire's decisions.
Basically, I don't blame the umpires for the mistakes in this test. They weren't as glaring as some in *that* test a couple of weeks ago. However, as more doubt is placed on the quality of umpiring decisions, that road towards using more technology becomes increasingly appealling.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Interestingly right at the moment, not one NZ batsmen (playing in this test) averages over 40 in Test Cricket and not one bowler averages less then 30.
These are the averages I normally consider to be a good player. Should those averages be changed, or is it an accurate sign on NZ Cricket?
Note - Fleming at lunch is averaging 39.96.
These are the averages I normally consider to be a good player. Should those averages be changed, or is it an accurate sign on NZ Cricket?
Note - Fleming at lunch is averaging 39.96.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Well, Bangladesh really can't really compete at the Test level, but the point is well taken about NZ. I don't really blame NZ batsmen, as if you're a NZ batsman, if you average 35-40, you're about 42-46 in most other countries. The bowlers should definitely be averaging a little bit less though.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I'd agree with you though, that as far as hard and fast rules go, less than 30 with the ball and more than 40 with the bat is a good benchmark I think (though obviously you need to look at a lot more than that).