*Official* Australia vs South Africa -2022/3

[the big bambino]

Loving the irony of a saffer complaining about green mambas.

 

[Son Of Coco]

...and why would they prepare a pitch for getting ready for next year Ashes? They have a tough series coming up against India. Why not play on slow turners?

The truth is these Aussie bowlers are not that skillful like SA bowlers and they need assistance from the pitch to humiliate us. If we get proper hard pitches in the next two Tests, SA will definitely win.

Is there any suggestion the players asked for this pitch?

 

[Son Of Coco]

Given the nature of the pitch and the bowling attacks, the test was essentially won by whoever hit their lengths the earliest and most consistently in each innings. It gave Australia the advantage in that regard being at home.

 

[Coronis]

Since we’ve had a bowling captain we get a lot more bowling friendly pitches.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

I've never rated Starc as high as some. I think he is a good bowler but can be wayward still. I rate Cummins ahead of Starc.

Lyon - again good bowler but not as high as others have him. He just bowls roughly the same. In a stronger era batsman would be using their feet and hammering him.

Yeah, your point being?

I rate Starc highly, and very much believe he has been underrated to absurd levels on this forum at times. But Cummins definitely is better, I don't see anyone agruing otherwise at all

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah, your point being?

I rate Starc highly, and very much believe he has been underrated to absurd levels on this forum at times. But Cummins definitely is better, I don't see anyone agruing otherwise at all

That account is new to the forum tbf. I know some casuals who think Starc is better because bowling faster, fuller and with a left arm is just inherently ***ier.

 

[TheJediBrah]

he has been underrated to absurd levels on this forum at times

hi

 

[Sunil1z]

TheGreatest making sunilz and Test Fan look like analytical cricket geniuses by comparison

You are still defending this pitch aren’t you ?
Why are you taking it so personally? No one has said that Aus Team asked for this wicket . This may be curators mistake.
If you combine bounce of Gabba with early summer Swing of England pitches, you will get pitches that would be nightmare for batting sides .

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

They're not dropping Ngidi for the same reason that Zondo played...

Can't be that he averages 21 with the ball in Test cricket

 

[Burgey]

Yeah might have something to do with it tbf

 

[TheJediBrah]

No one has said that Aus Team asked for this wicket

Bro you repeatedly said it was doctored

 

[Sunil1z]

Bro you repeatedly said it was doctored

Do you believe this pitch was Good ? Yes or No. Forget “doctored “ word for a minute.

 

[Burgey]

Vintage sunilz here. "Ignore what I've been saying for a day and a half, I'm now shifting the goal posts. Do you agree or not?!"

Pitch was bad because it was too soft on day one, which led to the divots becoming dangerous when it dried. Should get a poor marking. No pitch in a real cricketing country should get harder for batting on day two.

 

[StephenZA]

Do you believe this pitch was Good ? Yes or No. Forget “doctored “ word for a minute.

Nobody here thinks this was a great pitch, but it was not a doctored pitch, so just don't use that vernacular to describe it.

What I find amusing was that this all started as some sort of 'got ya' when in fact it had already been brought up how poor the pitch was for good quality test cricket. Did not make an iota of difference to the suckyness of the SA batsmen.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Do you believe this pitch was Good ? Yes or No. Forget “doctored “ word for a minute.

For once in a while I don't have any real issue with a pitch like this. Maybe a bit too bowler friendly but it's better than too much the other way. If you watched the game, which I know you didn't, you'd see most of the dismissals weren't unplayable deliveries because of a seamy pitch, they were good bowling/batting errors. Better batting line ups and worse bowling attacks and the game would last longer

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Nobody here thinks this was a great pitch, but it was not a doctored pitch, so just don't use that vernacular to describe it.

What I find amusing was that this all started as some sort of 'got ya' when in fact it had already been brought up how poor the pitch was for good quality test cricket. Did not make an iota of difference to the suckyness of the SA batsmen.

No way was this a doctored pitch , in fact I would go as far to say that this pitch actually gave South Africa more of a chance to compete... Australia have the far superior Batting line up on paper , it's not even close so a pitch that reduces the chance of high scores would favour our side South Africa, the South African game plan was clear for all to see , somehow scramble 250-300 together (On a good day) and rely on the quicks to win the game .

 

[Sunil1z]

So both Burgey and Jedibrah agree that this pitch wasn’t good . I would take it as a win.
They have problem with the “doctored “ word because that would mean Australia are cheating and we all know Aussies never cheat ?

 

[Burgey]

Nah I have a problem with the word "doctored" in this instance because making it so fast bowler friendly when your opponents are carrying four blokes who regularly shift it into the 140s, three of whom average 22 or less is not doctoring a pitch to favour your own outfit. The regular Gabba grassy road would have perfectly suited Aus given how bad SA's batting is.

Have no idea what went wrong with the pitch prep, but I'll bet London to a brick CA didn't request it from the groundsman.

 

[Line and Length]

So both Burgey and Jedibrah agree that this pitch wasn’t good . I would take it as a win.
They have problem with the “doctored “ word because that would mean Australia are cheating and we all know Aussies never cheat ?

The pitch certainly wasn't 'doctored'. It was just poorly prepared. As for 'cheating' - let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

 

[Sunil1z]

So , am I getting the terminology right ?

Doctored wicket : Bowling friendly pitch that gives more advantage to Home team than normal pitch

Bad wicket: Bowling friendly pitch that reduces the gap between Home Team and Away Team than normal pitch .