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Spikey

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And yeah there's that question to. You drop Hughes who opens? The dude with more exp opening or the dude who just tonned up at number 3...Just tell Pointing to chill with the baby.
 

SamSawnoff

U19 Vice-Captain
Someone has to get that on youtube. One of the funniest dismissals I've seen in ages
Johnson has possibly given me more amusement than any Aus player I've ever watched. He's such a complete nong.

A nong with an ICC Player of the Year award.

There's never been anyone like him.
 

Spark

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Would seriously consider declaring now tbh. Have to assume we're gonna lose a lot of time from now on.
 

SamSawnoff

U19 Vice-Captain
And yeah there's that question to. You drop Hughes who opens? The dude with more exp opening or the dude who just tonned up at number 3...Just tell Pointing to chill with the baby.
To be consistent they have to bench Marsh. He's only filling in, Hughes is supposed to be bedding in for the next Ashes - daft idea but there it is - and Ussie was the next off the rank, now that they've got rid of Smith the chancer.

I hope the new baby is making Punter really happy because if he's watched Marsh he might have felt the cold winds of change blowing over him.
 

Andre

International Regular
Marsh will be in for the next Test. Don't forget that Hughes also had the 3 Ashes Tests and was dismal. Reckon he's firmly under the pump.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
Marsh will be in for the next Test. Don't forget that Hughes also had the 3 Ashes Tests and was dismal. Reckon he's firmly under the pump.
I dunno, wouldn't be that suprised if Marsh sits it out for Ponting. Hughes hasn't done that badly so far in this test tbh...
 

Andre

International Regular
I dunno, wouldn't be that suprised if Marsh sits it out for Ponting. Hughes hasn't done that badly so far in this test tbh...
36 is his highest score in his last 9 Test innings. Pretty lucky to be there with those numbers.

Reckon he's under the pump with Khawaja the next most likely candidate. Marsh has just gone out and done what neither of those 2 have done since the got their chance/second chance.
 

Valer

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As much as I like Hughes I agree with Andre; he's done nothing since comming back. Khawaja should be persisted with for a few tests yet. I could see a Khawaja/ Hughes shoot out for South Africa and droping Marsh however.
 

Spikey

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Hughes has kept for NSW ftr

Marsh will be in for the next Test. Don't forget that Hughes also had the 3 Ashes Tests and was dismal. Reckon he's firmly under the pump.
Other hand Hughes had a storming finish to the FC season + Aus A tour, if we're doing it on performances Hughes has his head in front of Usman.


Not really sure why I'm defending Hughes - I wanted him to have another season with NSW!
 

Spikey

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Really, the dire performances by SL + huge contrasting pitches has just caused us more issues re selection
 

Ruckus

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Tbh looking at Hughes' test career as a whole so far, he has been pretty unlucky in regards to the times/circumstances he was picked. In his first Ashes he wasn't exactly given many chances (and he had just gunned it in SA anyway, you can't expect him to perform every series), he failed against Pak but so did the entire team, he did ok against NZ, and he failed in the recent Ashes after being picked when he was in the worst form of his career. This series so far has probably been his only genuine failure given he was picked in very good form. I'm not trying to sugar-coat anything though, he probably should have performed better even given the cirumstances, but still he shouldn't be criticised too harshly yet. Marsh definately deserves to be playing in the next game, but at the same time I just have this really bad feeling it will stall the progress of this team if he stays for the the longer term (because I am doubtful he will succeed yet, a la Marcus North).
 

Andre

International Regular
Tbh looking at Hughes' test career as a whole so far, he has been pretty unlucky in regards to the times/circumstances he was picked. In his first Ashes he wasn't exactly given many chances (and he had just gunned it in SA anyway, you can't expect him to perform every series), he failed against Pak but so did the entire team, he did ok against NZ, and he failed in the recent Ashes after being picked when he was in the worst form of his career. This series so far has probably been his only genuine failure given he was picked in very good form. I'm not trying to sugar-coat anything though, he probably should have performed better even given the cirumstances, but still he shouldn't be criticised too harshly yet. Marsh definately deserves to be playing in the next game, but at the same time I just have this really bad feeling it will stall the progress of this team if he stays for the the longer term (because I am doubtful he will succeed yet, a la Marcus North).
All well and good but you've got to take your chances when they are presented. He'd have noone else to blame if he got axed.

If Khawaja can make a handy 40* or so now I reckon it might be Hughes to sit out; if not, its 50:50 Hughes/Khawaja I reckon, with Hughes having had more chances at Test level of late.
 

SamSawnoff

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Tbh looking at Hughes' test career as a whole so far, he has been pretty unlucky in regards to the times/circumstances he was picked. In his first Ashes he wasn't exactly given many chances (and he had just gunned it in SA anyway, you can't expect him to perform every series), he failed against Pak but so did the entire team, he did ok against NZ, and he failed in the recent Ashes after being picked when he was in the worst form of his career. This series so far has probably been his only genuine failure given he was picked in very good form. I'm not trying to sugar-coat anything though, he probably should have performed better even given the cirumstances, but still he shouldn't be criticised too harshly yet. Marsh definately deserves to be playing in the next game, but at the same time I just have this really bad feeling it will stall the progress of this team if he stays for the the longer term (because I am doubtful he will succeed yet, a la Marcus North).
If Marsh had had the record so far in test cricket that Hughes has had, I'm sure you wouldn't be sugarcoating it. He has scored one 50 since his second test.

Despite that I think he should be given at least till the end of SA as they made such a statement by ditching Kat. And they seem to really want to invest in him regardless of the sheer ropiness of much of what he does.

It's not that big a thing, a filler in played beautifully in one innings but that's no reason to ditch the plan for the series.
 

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Tbh looking at Hughes' test career as a whole so far, he has been pretty unlucky in regards to the times/circumstances he was picked. In his first Ashes he wasn't exactly given many chances (and he had just gunned it in SA anyway, you can't expect him to perform every series), he failed against Pak but so did the entire team, he did ok against NZ, and he failed in the recent Ashes after being picked when he was in the worst form of his career. This series so far has probably been his only genuine failure given he was picked in very good form. I'm not trying to sugar-coat anything though, he probably should have performed better even given the cirumstances, but still he shouldn't be criticised too harshly yet. Marsh definately deserves to be playing in the next game, but at the same time I just have this really bad feeling it will stall the progress of this team if he stays for the the longer term (because I am doubtful he will succeed yet, a la Marcus North).
It's not just about the numbers, the SA series aside he's just not looked like a Test cricketer. Always feels like he's a few decent balls away from nicking out or getting out in a daft way. After his A-series runs, all the talk was about how he's in cracking form, damn dem coaches, etc. You'd expect to see some glimpses of that if he was, tbh.
 

Andre

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It's not just about the numbers, the SA series aside he's just not looked like a Test cricketer. Always feels like he's a few decent balls away from nicking out or getting out in a daft way. After his A-series runs, all the talk was about how he's in cracking form, damn dem coaches, etc. You'd expect to see some glimpses of that if he was, tbh.
This.

No homo.
 

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Tipping a Bevan-like career for him, tbh. Good early, perceived as being/actually found out against the short ones, persisted with intermittently until he's 30+, LO specialist for remainder of career.

That's right, Darshfans. Come get me.
Phase 1: complete.
 

robelinda

International Vice-Captain
So, we play Steyn & Morkel in a few weeks, who ya tipping to succeed? After Flintoff roughing him up and SA admitting they got their plans wrong in 09 I wouldn't back Hughes to go well....its good though- limited places, lots of competition.
 

Spikey

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Phase 1: complete.
This.

No homo.

Well not that post. The quoted post in the post I quoted.


Will both of Usman's dismissals coming from a known weakness in his game - bit lazy on the front foot - enter into discussions?
 

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