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Ming

State 12th Man
I would like to see Hamish being given these two ODIs to get it together, if he doesn't, send him back to the State Championship where he would get valuable match practice. Probably bring in Jesse Ryder if Hamish doesn't get any substantial runs at Wellington and Christchurch.
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
Presuming we lose this series 3-0 and I can't see the Marshall brothers coming out of their run drought either, I wouldn't mind NZ trying this team for Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka aren't in the best shape themselves right now so we could take a punt on a few guys & try a different opening combination.

Ryder
McCullum
Fleming
Fulton
Astle
Styris
Cairns
Oram
Vettori
Mills
Bond
Supersub: Andre Adams

Now some people might disagree with Astle being at #5, but clearly he's struggling against the new-ball..he might well enjoy coming up when he has a bit of time to tick the runs over and then blast at the end.
Im really keen to see a combination of Ryder & McCullum.
 

Darrin

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Tim said:
Presuming we lose this series 3-0 and I can't see the Marshall brothers coming out of their run drought either, I wouldn't mind NZ trying this team for Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka aren't in the best shape themselves right now so we could take a punt on a few guys & try a different opening combination.

Ryder
McCullum
Fleming
Fulton
Astle
Styris
Cairns
Oram
Vettori
Mills
Bond
Supersub: Andre Adams

Now some people might disagree with Astle being at #5, but clearly he's struggling against the new-ball..he might well enjoy coming up when he has a bit of time to tick the runs over and then blast at the end.
Im really keen to see a combination of Ryder & McCullum.
I don't mind that team, your right i do disagree with astle. But we can't continue to be relying on players who only perform 3 or 4 times out of 10(vincent and mcmillan). We need greater consistency. Fleming position is no# 3 in 1-dayers.
 

Zinzan

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Tim said:
Presuming we lose this series 3-0 and I can't see the Marshall brothers coming out of their run drought either, I wouldn't mind NZ trying this team for Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka aren't in the best shape themselves right now so we could take a punt on a few guys & try a different opening combination.

Ryder
McCullum
Fleming
Fulton
Astle
Styris
Cairns
Oram
Vettori
Mills
Bond
Supersub: Andre Adams

Now some people might disagree with Astle being at #5, but clearly he's struggling against the new-ball..he might well enjoy coming up when he has a bit of time to tick the runs over and then blast at the end.
Im really keen to see a combination of Ryder & McCullum.
I like your idea about looking at different options.....however if you look at ODI form in the last few years Fleming has been pretty successful in the opening role. I totally agree about the Marshalls....The more Hamish fails the more damage it will do and James is clearly just not up to it.
 

Natman20

International Debutant
Tim said:
Presuming we lose this series 3-0 and I can't see the Marshall brothers coming out of their run drought either, I wouldn't mind NZ trying this team for Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka aren't in the best shape themselves right now so we could take a punt on a few guys & try a different opening combination.

Ryder
McCullum
Fleming
Fulton
Astle
Styris
Cairns
Oram
Vettori
Mills
Bond
Supersub: Andre Adams

Now some people might disagree with Astle being at #5, but clearly he's struggling against the new-ball..he might well enjoy coming up when he has a bit of time to tick the runs over and then blast at the end.
Im really keen to see a combination of Ryder & McCullum.
I totally agree with that except I would have Ryder at No. 3 or 4 wateva. Need an experienced opener such as Flemming. Other than that a perfect sqaud. Adams makes a perfect supersub
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
James Marshall looks well below of what is required for international level and it doesn't help when he doesn't really have the statistics to warrant selection anyway. It just baffles me how they can suggest that Peter Fulton has technical problems, when James appears to have his own and averages almost half of what Fulton does.

Now obviously Ryder's OD stats aren't overally great, but he's clearly one of the most talented players seen in NZ over the last 10 years or so and he's not afraid to take the bowlers on.
James Marshall appears to lack talent at times and he seems gun-shy too.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Tim said:
James Marshall looks well below of what is required for international level and it doesn't help when he doesn't really have the statistics to warrant selection anyway. It just baffles me how they can suggest that Peter Fulton has technical problems, when James appears to have his own and averages almost half of what Fulton does.

Now obviously Ryder's OD stats aren't overally great, but he's clearly one of the most talented players seen in NZ over the last 10 years or so and he's not afraid to take the bowlers on.
James Marshall appears to lack talent at times and he seems gun-shy too.
As an outsider, James' selection smacked of a PR exercise.

You know, pick the twin to make a nice headline (and show repeated shots of their parents in the stands accompanied by voice-over from Smithy, etc saying that they must be so proud).

Unfortunately, from what Ive seen of him, he's pretty ordinary.
 

Blaze

Banned
social said:
As an outsider, James' selection smacked of a PR exercise.

You know, pick the twin to make a nice headline (and show repeated shots of their parents in the stands accompanied by voice-over from Smithy, etc saying that they must be so proud).

Unfortunately, from what Ive seen of him, he's pretty ordinary.

It takes me back to the Darren Murray, Blair Heartland, Murphey Su'a, Lee Germon, Blair Pocock...etc days.
 

Natman20

International Debutant
Supersub: James Marshall

Replaced: Kyle Mills (NZ innings)

James Marshall first class average 28.41 from 123 innings
Kyle Mills first class average 35.76 from 56 innings
 

Blaze

Banned
The good news is that the rain has stopped and it is not supposed to rain again today. I am going to the match. Looking forward to seeing the Aussies in action live.
 

Top_Cat

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It takes me back to the Darren Murray, Blair Heartland, Murphey Su'a, Lee Germon, Blair Pocock...etc days.
Bit harsh to include Le Germon, there. He was an excellent captain and did play some significant knocks for NZ. The 70-odd he hit in partnership with Chris Harris in the 1996 WC quarter-final was outstanding even if they did lose the game in the end.

(Actually come to think of it, that knock of Chris Harris was one of the best I personally ever saw. From anyone.)

But yeah agree with the rest, particularly James Marshall. His LBW was just ugly.
 

AndrewM

U19 12th Man
Blaze said:
It takes me back to the Darren Murray, Blair Heartland, Murphey Su'a, Lee Germon, Blair Pocock...etc days.
:wacko:

With all due respect to Murphy Su'a, we aren't that desperate atm..

Bracewell has some weird theory that James Marshall, being a twin brother of Hamish, must have the same ability.

That comparison of Mills and J Marshall's batting average is extremely funny. Actually its quite sad.

We need to bat first today (providing we win the toss again).
Australia have always maintained they love to set the target and then restrict.
 

Natman20

International Debutant
Supersub: James Marshall

Replaced: Kyle Mills (NZ innings)

James Marshall ODI average 6 from 4 innings
Kyle Mills ODI average 14.25 from 32 innings
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
Scott Styris and Hamish Marshall have come in for critcism over their training routine of just having throw-downs. Ricky Ponting can't believe how that could prepare you for pace bowling..and to some extent I agree.

But the good news for today is that the Basin Reserve is getting a major overhaul with a new stand and everything so at least we're going to have one decent cricket venue with maybe Hamilton (hopefully they'll get the pitch sorted out this season).
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Tim said:
Scott Styris and Hamish Marshall have come in for critcism over their training routine of just having throw-downs. Ricky Ponting can't believe how that could prepare you for pace bowling..and to some extent I agree.
yeah i gotta agree with Puner there.
 

Kiwi

State Vice-Captain
I disagree to a certain extent. Cricket is 99% mental. especially at that level. So it is about confidence. you gain that by hitting the ball in the middle of the bat and feeling good about it. That is what you do throwdowns for. However i do agree that a net has to be done occasionally just to feel the pace etc
 

Ming

State 12th Man
I think some people are confused with the level of throw downs they are using....saw a clip on TV, and had a guy chucking the ball at full pace to Styris....so it's not like no pads and soft throw downs....
 

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Best pitch report ever. :laugh:

Australia have got Lewis as their sub today, interesting to see how he goes. Same team for NZ :unsure:
 

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