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**Official** Australia in India Thread

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
What, has he just given Patel not-out when he's nicked the cover off one or something?
He was plumb, first ball. That Parthiv is really lucky. Not only does the management give him an extended run as a keeper and number 7, but he also gets to score runs with the top 6 getting a lot, and get an average of 32 with 3 50's. He even gets to open the batting!
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Richard said:
What, has he just given Patel not-out when he's nicked the cover off one or something?

McGrath had him plumb first ball. The only reason I think Buchnor gave it not out is because he thought there was bat first, but I didn't think so.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Swervy said:
Because it'll mean one innings from a clearly hugely inferior player has cancelled-out, what, the whole last 18 months? Something like that.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Mister Wright said:
Warne has just bowled Laxman. Now I've always thought that ball he bowled to Gatting was over-rated - that one just beat it!
I liked the one he got Gibbs with in WC99. And Ijaz in the final, too.
Hopefully I'll get to see this Laxman one.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
That ball from Warne to get Laxman may well be even better than Pathan's delivery to Langer yesterday. Regardless, India are looking like they will be following on without a miracle, and Australia are in position to take the first test comfortably.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
McGrath had him plumb first ball. The only reason I think Buchnor gave it not out is because he thought there was bat first, but I didn't think so.
Do the kid a little favour. He's dropped a few catches, he hasn't made too many stumpings, so let him score some runs. Lucky Parthiv gets four more.

The Indians may stay to fight another innings. They made far too many mistakes here, and should not repeat them.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
FaaipDeOiad said:
Okay, if the Clarke decision was wrong Bucknor has just evened out Bowden's mistake and probably the Tendulkar decision from the last series too. It's hard to imagine anyone being more plumb than Patel just was to McGrath.
And of course giving a hopeless player like Patel a favour sure undoes bad decisions regarding full-time batsmen, doesn't it!
It doesn't work like that with teams - bad decisions don't even themselves out over time, there are too many of the things.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
FaaipDeOiad said:
That ball from Warne to get Laxman may well be even better than Pathan's delivery to Langer yesterday. Regardless, India are looking like they will be following on without a miracle, and Australia are in position to take the first test comfortably.
Interesting poser coming-up for Gilchrist, this one.
Does he enforce the follow-on? All cricketing logic says yes: Australia are looking like being in the field for 55-60 overs absolute tops here.
How much precedent will be afforded to one total freak Test-match 42 months ago, I wonder?
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Richard said:
As per every series in the last 42 months.
What's Laxman's average since Kolkata 2001, now, I wonder. Haven't checked for a while.
Laxman's career average before the 281 was 28.03 after the 281 it was 35.47. His career average now is 46.54. Before he got the 281 he had 6 50s and 4 100s. He now has 19 50s & 6 100s. The strange this is at the time of his 281 he only had 2 ducks he now has 7.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
What on earth is that garble? *Splurge*Uhh *Splurge**Splurge*Fantastic Score*Splurge**cough*What to do*ahem* (All those watching DD Sports will be familiar)
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Arjun said:
Hopefully Parthiv will get knocked over cheaply repeatedly in this series.
Why on earth would you want to wish that?

I personally wish, he would improve his keeping considerably, then fail repeatedly in his batting. He is a good batsmen, with a lot of potential, and simply speaking, I just hope that Parthiv improves his wicketkeeping.

I admit Parthiv isn't a top class keeper, but he is a good batsman, and he just needs to improve his wicket keeping. Your logic baffles me.
 

Swervy

International Captain
Richard said:
Interesting poser coming-up for Gilchrist, this one.
Does he enforce the follow-on? All cricketing logic says yes: Australia are looking like being in the field for 55-60 overs absolute tops here.
How much precedent will be afforded to one total freak Test-match 42 months ago, I wonder?
well I dont know...say India are all out at lunch tomorrow,maybe 220 behind (worst case scenario I think for Australia)..I would say with 8 sessions left, Australia might want to avoid batting last on this wicket,and so try and get a lead of say 470,and give India 5 sessions to bat.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
masterblaster said:
Why on earth would you want to wish that?

I personally wish, he would improve his keeping considerably, then fail repeatedly in his batting. He is a good batsmen, with a lot of potential, and simply speaking, I just hope that Parthiv improves his wicketkeeping.

I admit Parthiv isn't a top class keeper, but he is a good batsman, and he just needs to improve his wicket keeping. Your logic baffles me.
Then he'll realise that dropping catches hurts the team more than it helps, no matter how many runs a tailender makes. Besides, Parthiv is not the kind of player who will stay in a team that consistently wins tournaments and dominates world cricket. Dinesh Karthik's batting is of top-6 quality, and he's a far better keeper than Parthiv and Dravid, so he must be feeling hard done.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Interesting poser coming-up for Gilchrist, this one.
Does he enforce the follow-on? All cricketing logic says yes: Australia are looking like being in the field for 55-60 overs absolute tops here.
How much precedent will be afforded to one total freak Test-match 42 months ago, I wonder?
I think a reasonable argument can be made for not enforcing the follow-on without taking that test into account, since the pitch seems likely to turn into a dustbowl on the last couple of days. If they knock over India tomorrow morning with a lead of more than 300 you would think the follow-on would be enforced. However, if it is much closer and India can survive well into tomorrow Australia might look to bat for a day, score another 300 and then declare and bowl last.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Arjun said:
Then he'll realise that dropping catches hurts the team more than it helps, no matter how many runs a tailender makes. Besides, Parthiv is not the kind of player who will stay in a team that consistently wins tournaments and dominates world cricket. Dinesh Karthik's batting is of top-6 quality, and he's a far better keeper than Parthiv and Dravid, so he must be feeling hard done.
I agree about Dinesh Karthik, but I also think that he's not the wicket keeping saviour India is looking for. If Parthiv fails repeatedly, it hurts the team and goes a long way in letting Australia win back this Border-Gavaskar Trophy.

I personally hope that Parthiv improves, rather than fails. He has the tools to succeed at this form of the game, but he needs to fine tune these skills. I never really want any player to fail, as it takes a lot of hard work, heart and courage to make it to International Cricket.

Good luck to Parthiv.
 

Swervy

International Captain
FaaipDeOiad said:
I think a reasonable argument can be made for not enforcing the follow-on without taking that test into account, since the pitch seems likely to turn into a dustbowl on the last couple of days. If they knock over India tomorrow morning with a lead of more than 300 you would think the follow-on would be enforced. However, if it is much closer and India can survive well into tomorrow Australia might look to bat for a day, score another 300 and then declare and bowl last.
yeah ..the closer India get to 200 behind the less likely Australia will enforce the follow on I think. If Australia enforce the followon with a lead of say 210 or so,it might only take a session and a half of good batting by India to actually get on top again (with Australia having to bat last).
 

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