**Official** Australia in India Thread

[marc71178]

its team policy not to comment on such things till after games are over i believe

Does that extend to fans as well then?

 

[Slats4ever]

nah

 

[Eclipse]

whatever it is, lehmann on top form is a far far better player against spin than ponting can ever dream off.
times running out for ponting IMO, averaging as low as he has in india is just not good enough to be considered great.

get real..

you dont like him very much do you ?

 

[Slats4ever]

haha he's just a douche bag. whoever thinks that time's running out for pontin when it was this time last year he scored like 5 150's or something in consecutive test matches, and he's only failed in one test matches has no cricketing brain

 

[Deja moo]

^ Does'nt Ponting have 8 or 9 tests in India at an average of 12 ?

 

[age_master]

look at his record though, average getting higher and higher as his career goes on, hes alot better against spin than he used to be.

 

[Deja moo]

look at his record though, average getting higher and higher as his career goes on, hes alot better against spin than he used to be.

Actually his average has been dropping since the tour to SL (33 there?)..

 

[Eclipse]

^ Does'nt Ponting have 8 or 9 tests in India at an average of 12 ?

And would you not consider Warne a great bowler because he has a poor record in India ??

besides It's just way to harsh to judge him on one performance on lets face it an awfull pitch and on performances 4 years ago..

 

[Eclipse]

Actually his average has been dropping since the tour to SL (33 there?)..

true but I dont suspect that will continue.

 

[Slats4ever]

^ Does'nt Ponting have 8 or 9 tests in India at an average of 12 ?

doesn't this sorta say how good he is at the same time as you putting him down. by saying his only avging so many there it also means he avgs heaps more in other countries as well, like up around 60

 

[Dydl]

Hopefully he will find some form as he has a great style and is entertaining to watch. As you may or may not know, Ponting once played an unusual defensive shot to the leg side for a single to allow Hayden, who he was batting with, get his century, which he did. I remember other times when he has done something similar but that one has just stuck in my mind.

 

[Deja moo]

And would you not consider Warne a great bowler because he has a poor record in India ??

Sure Warne is a great bowler....but a great bowler with a slight weakness nevertheless.

....besides It's just way to harsh to judge him on one performance on lets face it an awfull pitch and on performances 4 years ago..

Its based on performances in 1996 , 1998 , 2001 and this one test in 2004.Pretty much spread over his entire career.The pitch this time could have been a factor , but the average was still 12 or something before this series .Achilles heel ?

 

[Deja moo]

doesn't this sorta say how good he is at the same time as you putting him down. by saying his only avging so many there it also means he avgs heaps more in other countries as well, like up around 60

Not putting him down mate. Just pointing out a flaw.

 

[Slats4ever]

people who talk about avgs and greatness in the same sentence have got it wrong. Cricket and bowling so often in particular has nothing to do with who gets the wickets, rather who creates tension. I know as a batsman in real life it's not often the bowler i most fear and struggle with that gets me out. I find I am taken up concentrating on them for so long that when another bowler comes on who i'm comfortable with comes on i relax and get out.

There are so many variables that avgs aren't a way to judge greatness only heart.

And my heart says Ponting is one of the greats

 

[Eclipse]

Sure Warne is a great bowler....but a great bowler with a slight weakness nevertheless.

Same with Ponting..

Its based on performances in 1996 , 1998 , 2001 and this one test in 2004.Pretty much spread over his entire career.The pitch this time could have been a factor , but the average was still 12 or something before this series .Achilles heel ?

You forgeting how much Ponting has improved as a player since 2001.. and I am sure he would do much better if he was given a sustained run ie an entire test series In Indian conditions.. He missed out on that opertunity this time unfortunatly.

I am a realist and know he will never avrage 40+ in Indian conditions but he is good enough for mid - high 30s.

 

[thirdumpire]

Pontings away-Test match averages. (Cant seem to get NZ. has he played tests in NZ ? )

Pakistan - 119.00 (1 test)
Windies - 98.71 ( 5 tests)
S. Africa - 77.25 ( 3 tests)
Sri Lanka - 50.11 (6 tests)
England - 44.53 (8 tests)
Zimbabwe - 31.00 (1 test)
India - 12.28 ( 8 tests)

 

[Deja moo]

Same with Ponting..



You forgeting how much Ponting has improved as a player since 2001.. and I am sure he would do much better if he was given a sustained run ie an entire test series In Indian conditions.. He missed out on that opertunity this time unfortunatly.

I am a realist and know he will never avrage 40+ in Indian conditions but he is good enough for mid - high 30s.

Yea, thats fair enough.....could br the bowling too. Wonder how much he averages vs Pakistan ?

 

[Eclipse]

Yea, thats fair enough.....could br the bowling too. Wonder how much he averages vs Pakistan ?

About 70 I think..

Edit- 73.11 to be accurate

 

[Mister Wright]

Pontings away-Test match averages. (Cant seem to get NZ. has he played tests in NZ ? )

Pakistan - 119.00 (1 test)
Windies - 98.71 ( 5 tests)
S. Africa - 77.25 ( 3 tests)
Sri Lanka - 50.11 (6 tests)
England - 44.53 (8 tests)
Zimbabwe - 31.00 (1 test)
India - 12.28 ( 8 tests)

No, he was injured for the last New Zealand tour.

That was when Martyn came back into the side.

 

[Slats4ever]

the above shows the fact that he can play spin. avging 50+ against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka