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**Official** Australia in India Thread

maxpower

U19 Cricketer
Swervy said:
I called it stupid coz it is stupid not coz I support Australia. I think Warne went someway to show he can bowl in India,and Ponting is obviously one of the best batsman in the world.

Both teams were probably hurt by injuries as much as each other..but lets face it, Tendulkar has nothing in tests for 2 years now aprt from 2 innings in that time,he may well not have been a major force in the series anyway.
warne's somewhat ok performance seems better coz AUS finally won the series, to say sachin "may" have not mattered is same as speculating, warne would "not" have mattered in final test. "out of form" Sachin still is more valuable to IND, than ponting and warne combined. Its actually not healthy for the IND team, but thats how it is.
 

biased indian

International Coach
Swervy said:
I called it stupid coz it is stupid not coz I support Australia. I think Warne went someway to show he can bowl in India,and Ponting is obviously one of the best batsman in the world.
if u say the figures that are shown with this post at this time are good compare it with the other two spinners .warne still had a bad figures and u have to take into account following things.
a)most of the indian batsmen where out of form prior to the series
b) australia really dominated the series (if u r own words are taken into consideration)
c) shane warne was in his best form (after the one year break he got courtesy ICC)
 

biased indian

International Coach
marc71178 said:
IMO, Lehmann is still worthy of a spot in that middle order, replacing either Katich or Clarke (who let us remember wouldn't have had a game but for Ponting's injury)
the thing for us to remmeber here is clarke got the game and he proved better than lehman atleat in the series and he deserved a place in the team ahead of lehman

and the fact is that lehman himself was ready to move over for both of whom u mentiond for just the sake of proving u r baseless comment true
 

Neil Pickup

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By 'eck, you lot aren't half good at making arguments out of nowt, are you?

To summarise, as a neutral - in that I dislike Australia and India almost equally
1) India lost at home, most amusing in that it shoots down a fairly large tranche of hyperbole
2) Australia implode chasing 107, very, very funny
3) Cracks in Indian cricket papered over by the win in the fourth Test - it happened to England so often in the 90s, and it's being repeated. The series was lost, and the BCCI should pay scant attention to the win on the minefield.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Linda said:
I find it hard to beleive that people can constantly predict players success -or lack of- in certain conditions when the Man of the series, prior to this series, apparently had no footwork, and was useless against good spin.
to be fair, there was only one person(at least who i can remember) who said that, the same person who said that katich was weak against spin. interestingly enough i backed both those players before the series and both of them succeeded brilliantly.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Sudeep said:
IMO Ponting didn't get a fair chance to bat this time. He's definitely not the best player of spin, but he isn't too bad either.
whatever it is, lehmann on top form is a far far better player against spin than ponting can ever dream off.
times running out for ponting IMO, averaging as low as he has in india is just not good enough to be considered great.
 

JustTool

State 12th Man
Sudeep said:
IMO Ponting didn't get a fair chance to bat this time. He's definitely not the best player of spin, but he isn't too bad either.
It's probably because he didn't get enough chances he is still in the team. :) IMHO a lot of his lashing out at the pitch is because of his abysmal record against spin. Especially in India. In fact, the top order of Australia was out not to any 'bad-pitch' effects (Kasprowicz was e.g.,) but just shoddy batting. Look at the replay of Pontings wicket - it was a clueless shot.

I submit to you that Australia won in large part because of Gilly's understated and intelligent captaincy and because Ricky was gone they were able to include Clarke in the team.
 

Jnr.

First Class Debutant
tooextracool said:
yes i know, thats what im referring too.
he averaged 33 in SL, didnt do much on a flat cairns wicket and then didnt do much in this game.
in ODIs, in his last 3 series, hes averaged 25,4 and 25.5.
his injury certainly doesnt make things any better
I think he's suffering from what Damien Martyn suffered from last year, ie getting a start, but not going on with it. He's looked in decent form (just like Martyn last year), but keeps getting out just when he looks like taking the game away. He's had a poor year.
 

biased indian

International Coach
age_master said:
you people soundeed like you needed reminding :p
then best think u can do is post the some thing in this thread every say 6 hours or so so that it remain in the front page of cricket chat for ever and that it will remind it to us :p :p :p :p
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
JustTool said:
It's probably because he didn't get enough chances he is still in the team. :) IMHO a lot of his lashing out at the pitch is because of his abysmal record against spin. Especially in India. In fact, the top order of Australia was out not to any 'bad-pitch' effects (Kasprowicz was e.g.,) but just shoddy batting. Look at the replay of Pontings wicket - it was a clueless shot.

I submit to you that Australia won in large part because of Gilly's understated and intelligent captaincy and because Ricky was gone they were able to include Clarke in the team.
So true. Most of the Aussie top order got out to poor shots, nothing due to the wicket. Plus, one has to wonder why Ponting did not say something about the pitch at the end of the second day, when they were clearly in control of the match.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
honestbharani said:
So true. Most of the Aussie top order got out to poor shots, nothing due to the wicket. Plus, one has to wonder why Ponting did not say something about the pitch at the end of the second day, when they were clearly in control of the match.

Ponting might not have, but Gillespie did.
 

thirdumpire

School Boy/Girl Captain
We had a call from THE BOARD, that a hasty meeting will be held within one hour. We wondered what it could be about. Could it be about our secret PROJECT “WIN THAT TOSS” ?

We were soon to find out that we were correct in our prediction, when one top-gun from THE BOARD arrived , lets call him X.

X dropped the bombshell on us immediately, - ‘the intelligent coin has to be ready in 48-hours , that is Tuesday evening”.

We told him that it was impossible, we done the testing, but not able to counter the Wind Effect as yet It works perfectly, but if the wind as an external factor takes over then the code looses control….”.

“F*** the wind, just get it ready “ X growled. “We have prepared the pitch just the way we want it, but do you know it will be like shooting ourselves in the leg , if we don’t get that toss. Any idea what could happen if WE bat last? He asked.

Some shuddered at the prospect. Agent Fine Leg , she was almost in tears.

“Same old excuse from you guys for last 3 matches. So get it ready NOW, we are flipping it at Wankhede”, X barked, before slipping away into the darkness.

So we got to work, secretly we were thrilled at the prospect of testing it in real time. So what is the Intelligent Coin, you would ask. In simple terms it is Remotedly Activated Voice Recognition and Action Coin. The RAVRAC.

Still puzzled, OK microchip embedded in the coin , with a program that recognizes the voice and actions the flips according to whose voice it is - Ponting or Dravid. Of course if Ponting, it does opposite of what he called, if Dravids voice, then it does exactly what he called. The Remote Action Control box is tiny enough to be slipped into Dravid’s blazer pocket, which he will activate just before the call.

I cannot give out details of the whole code as it is very lengthy, anyway to give you an idea it goes like this – (although written in C++, I have dusted out my COBOL code book and written it down the same in more-understandable COBOL code )

IF VOICE = “Ponting_voice” AND VOICE_CONTENT = “tails” AND
COIN_SIDE_ON_THUMB_NAIL = “heads”
THEN
PERFORM FLIPS-ON-UPWARD-ROUTE 12 TIMES UNTIL
COIN-SIDE-FACING-MOON = “heads”
PERFORM FLIPS-ON-DOWNWARD-ROUTE 6 TIMES UNTIL
COIN-SIDE-FACING-GROUND = “tails”
**Remark** The following code is taking care of the wind-factor, which we are testing
IF COIN-SIDE-FACING-MOON = VOICE_CONTENT
THEN
PERFORM FLIP-IMMEDIATE 1 TIME
GO TO END-PROGRAM.

There will be much more code for various other combinations of voice and voice content. Another part of code will look like this:

IF VOICE = “Dravid_voice” AND VOICE_CONTENT = “heads” AND
COIN_SIDE_ON_THUMB_NAIL = “tails”
THEN
PERFORM FLIPS-ON-UPWARD-ROUTE 11 TIMES UNTIL
COIN-SIDE-FACING-MOON = “tails”
PERFORM FLIPS-ON-DOWNWARD-ROUTE 7 TIMES UNTIL
COIN-SIDE-FACING-GROUND = “tails”
**Remark** The following code is taking care of the wind-factor, which we are testing IF COIN-SIDE-FACING-MOON NOT = VOICE_CONTENT
THEN
PERFORM FLIP-IMMEDIATE 1 TIME
GO TO END-PROGRAM.
 

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