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**Official** Australia in India Thread
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Here is an article from CricketNext that has Rick Ponting as it's 'correspondent' (meaning another Indian company that pays the Aussies to come to India and whine): Perfect !
JUST SHUT UP, AUSSIES! WELL DONE, INDIA!!
Wankhede Stadium erupted in wild joyous celebrations as the lanky Glenn McGrath fell to the deceptive guile of the irrepressible Harbhajan Singh. The Mumbai Test match between the two essentially hostile rivals will go down as one of the most dramatic matches in Test cricket. And India in winning the topsy-turvy game by a slender 13-run margin demonstrated that they do have the capability to emerge like the Phoenix from the Ashes, after a long drought of depressing defeats.
Frankly, let us damn the so-called purists who constantly lament turning tracks in India. I think it is nothing but sanctimonious bull crap. Every home team has the prerogative of preparing tracks favoring the host team -- it is plain horse sense. The Aussies did not give the Indian spinners a red carpet welcome there; surely we have a right to reciprocate the gesture here. So what if the Mumbai Test ended in two days, at least we had some heart stopping unexpected swings that revealed the crazy unpredictability of this capricious sport. I refuse to join the so-called profound purist brigade which has sided with the Australian skipper in strongly denouncing the Mumbai track. Would Ricky Ponting have been as churlish had Jason Gillespie somehow eked out a victory? And by the way, when Sachin Tendulkar and VVS Laxman were batting together, the Mumbai track looked as innocuous as a poodle on a velvet sofa.
The truth is it was a breathtaking fame of fluctuating fortunes, and dame luck. India won because they played as if they had nothing to lose -- a lesson for them here; they should play without bringing their reputation baggage with them. Sachin was electrifying and VVS, reassuring. Rahul Dravid, carrying like Atlas the world on his shoulders, was somber but Mohammed Kaif was deliciously savouring a difficult track. Terrific spirit there. Not surprisingly, we crumbled from 182 for 4 to 205 all out. And with the Aussies sitting on a 99-run lead, not a major population anywhere in the world believed we were going to cause any discomfort to the Kangaroos already contemplating champagne in their Qantas seats after a three-nil whitewash. That it did not happen has a lot to do with Indian pluck, Aussie nervousness and a certain spinning threesome called Harbhajan Singh, Anil Kumble and Murali Karthik. Let us salute the three guys for making the miracle happen.
To the over-inflated purists I ask -- did you complain about the track in West Indies enough which skittled the famed Indians for about 80 runs when chasing a paltry 120? I still think it was lousy Indian batting that did us in – no complaints, no sulking, no crying. The Aussies humbled us when we visited them under Tendulkar’s captaincy on bouncy tracks because they were better than us —- period. The truth is that I am sure it hurts Ponting & co that the best team in the world could not score 107 runs no matter what the conditions were when it really mattered. The fact is that they had no business to lose -- after all India is supposed to be the divided, dispirited and demoralised side, right? The Australians should stop whining like cantankerous schoolboys and cut out the complaining, and accept defeat with grace and dignity. Let me remind them that even in Davis Cup matches, the Spaniards as hosts prepare the slowest of clay surfaces for their Australian counterparts. And Americans have hard courts ready for their European rivals.
I am left wondering. What if Chennai had not got rained off on Day five? A 2-2 result perhaps; that would have been the fair result, maybe. I do hope the Aussies don’t complain to the ICC against the green top offered on a silver platter to the Kangaroos in Nagpur. Too green maybe, Glenn, Jason? Yes, the Final Frontier has been momentarily breached but as the 93-run score and the 13-run defeat in Mumbai shows, it is not yet fully captured. For Ponting & co, a new Frontier has just emerged. The battle may have just begun.
JUST SHUT UP, AUSSIES! WELL DONE, INDIA!!
Wankhede Stadium erupted in wild joyous celebrations as the lanky Glenn McGrath fell to the deceptive guile of the irrepressible Harbhajan Singh. The Mumbai Test match between the two essentially hostile rivals will go down as one of the most dramatic matches in Test cricket. And India in winning the topsy-turvy game by a slender 13-run margin demonstrated that they do have the capability to emerge like the Phoenix from the Ashes, after a long drought of depressing defeats.
Frankly, let us damn the so-called purists who constantly lament turning tracks in India. I think it is nothing but sanctimonious bull crap. Every home team has the prerogative of preparing tracks favoring the host team -- it is plain horse sense. The Aussies did not give the Indian spinners a red carpet welcome there; surely we have a right to reciprocate the gesture here. So what if the Mumbai Test ended in two days, at least we had some heart stopping unexpected swings that revealed the crazy unpredictability of this capricious sport. I refuse to join the so-called profound purist brigade which has sided with the Australian skipper in strongly denouncing the Mumbai track. Would Ricky Ponting have been as churlish had Jason Gillespie somehow eked out a victory? And by the way, when Sachin Tendulkar and VVS Laxman were batting together, the Mumbai track looked as innocuous as a poodle on a velvet sofa.
The truth is it was a breathtaking fame of fluctuating fortunes, and dame luck. India won because they played as if they had nothing to lose -- a lesson for them here; they should play without bringing their reputation baggage with them. Sachin was electrifying and VVS, reassuring. Rahul Dravid, carrying like Atlas the world on his shoulders, was somber but Mohammed Kaif was deliciously savouring a difficult track. Terrific spirit there. Not surprisingly, we crumbled from 182 for 4 to 205 all out. And with the Aussies sitting on a 99-run lead, not a major population anywhere in the world believed we were going to cause any discomfort to the Kangaroos already contemplating champagne in their Qantas seats after a three-nil whitewash. That it did not happen has a lot to do with Indian pluck, Aussie nervousness and a certain spinning threesome called Harbhajan Singh, Anil Kumble and Murali Karthik. Let us salute the three guys for making the miracle happen.
To the over-inflated purists I ask -- did you complain about the track in West Indies enough which skittled the famed Indians for about 80 runs when chasing a paltry 120? I still think it was lousy Indian batting that did us in – no complaints, no sulking, no crying. The Aussies humbled us when we visited them under Tendulkar’s captaincy on bouncy tracks because they were better than us —- period. The truth is that I am sure it hurts Ponting & co that the best team in the world could not score 107 runs no matter what the conditions were when it really mattered. The fact is that they had no business to lose -- after all India is supposed to be the divided, dispirited and demoralised side, right? The Australians should stop whining like cantankerous schoolboys and cut out the complaining, and accept defeat with grace and dignity. Let me remind them that even in Davis Cup matches, the Spaniards as hosts prepare the slowest of clay surfaces for their Australian counterparts. And Americans have hard courts ready for their European rivals.
I am left wondering. What if Chennai had not got rained off on Day five? A 2-2 result perhaps; that would have been the fair result, maybe. I do hope the Aussies don’t complain to the ICC against the green top offered on a silver platter to the Kangaroos in Nagpur. Too green maybe, Glenn, Jason? Yes, the Final Frontier has been momentarily breached but as the 93-run score and the 13-run defeat in Mumbai shows, it is not yet fully captured. For Ponting & co, a new Frontier has just emerged. The battle may have just begun.
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a massive zebra
International Captain
Very well said! 
Here's more trash talking tripe from the unbelievably unsporting and hypocritical Aussies:
Many of the papers carried two articles on the same page - one, praising with unabashed immodesty Clarke's bowling and another quoting Ponting about how the pitch was unfit for Test Cricket. Never saying that Clarke's bowling may have been a fluke because of the same 'dud' pitch that caused India to win. These guys are amazing !!
And did the Pope ordain (and who cares, even if he did ?) that the whole world must have fast and bouncy wickets - such self-serving crap. We should complain that the Aussies don't prepare more turning tracks but WE NEVER DO !
Many of the papers carried two articles on the same page - one, praising with unabashed immodesty Clarke's bowling and another quoting Ponting about how the pitch was unfit for Test Cricket. Never saying that Clarke's bowling may have been a fluke because of the same 'dud' pitch that caused India to win. These guys are amazing !!
And did the Pope ordain (and who cares, even if he did ?) that the whole world must have fast and bouncy wickets - such self-serving crap. We should complain that the Aussies don't prepare more turning tracks but WE NEVER DO !
I recorded the entire match. Watching it over again. Here's what stands out:
1) None of the Aussie commentators complained about the pitch AT ALL until Australia lost. Because throughout the match Aussies looked like they will win.
2) Still counting how many Aussies were out, KNEW they were out but DID NOT walk (Hayden in the first innings was a great example). So much for the sanctimonius ******** about walking. Hear ! Hear ! Atherton !
So, now no one wants to discuss 'walking' any more ?
1) None of the Aussie commentators complained about the pitch AT ALL until Australia lost. Because throughout the match Aussies looked like they will win.
2) Still counting how many Aussies were out, KNEW they were out but DID NOT walk (Hayden in the first innings was a great example). So much for the sanctimonius ******** about walking. Hear ! Hear ! Atherton !
So, now no one wants to discuss 'walking' any more ?
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Swervy
International Captain
Oh well...whether the pitch was shite or not is an irrelevance to me..Australia won the series 2-1..thats all that matters to me..that last test meant nothing to me,the work had been done already.Australia proved their superiority in the series,no need for complaining about the pitch or whatever.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Did the 4th Test count triple or did India indeed lose the series 2-1? I don't really see what all the fuss is about in winning a dead rubber on a minefield. As for the 'if the 2nd Test had not been rained off then it would have been 2-2' is just plain rubbish, first of all India would have had to win that Test then Australia would have played 100% in the 3rd and 4th Tests, also remembering how India have bottled finals etc. of late, so it would likely have been 3-1 to Australia instead.
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
JustTool said:
since when have all the aussies been walking, its up to each individual batsman....
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
JustTool said:
ricky ponting hgas said something along the lines of you know a pitch is bad when a part timer like clarke takes 6/9 - the difference is that he is a part timer and even on that pitch he still managed better figures than all the other fuill time spinners.
Ignoring reality will always make you happy. JUST ADMIT it that Australia were lucky to win the series 2-1 - it should have been 2-2. Australia played a FULL STRENGTH team in the 4ths Test and the amount Ricky is complaining means they really did want to win. Remember Ricky has failed in India in Tests as a player and as a captain and it is showing in his 'Swervy said:
"Thanks, again. I have also hired Ricky Ponting as my personal coach - it's amazing what the Aussies will do for Indian endorsement moneymavric41 said:Our pleasure. Its nice to know you have finally seen the light.
His only condition was that I not try to expose the Aussie double standards 
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
lol, but it wasn't, the result was 2-1 and India lost. for mine india would have lost 3-1 if not for the day of rain. but the result of the series has been decided and AUSTRALIA WONJustTool said:Ignoring reality will always make you happy. JUST ADMIT it that Australia were lucky to win the series 2-1 - it should have been 2-2. Australia played a FULL STRENGTH team in the 4ths Test and the amount Ricky is complaining means they really did want to win. Remember Ricky has failed in India in Tests as a player and as a captain and it is showing in his '
mavric41
State Vice-Captain
I didn't notice Shane Warne on the field. Where was he hiding?JustTool said:Ignoring reality will always make you happy. JUST ADMIT it that Australia were lucky to win the series 2-1 - it should have been 2-2. Australia played a FULL STRENGTH team in the 4ths Test and the amount Ricky is complaining means they really did want to win. Remember Ricky has failed in India in Tests as a player and as a captain and it is showing in his '
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
Kumble tells Aussies to cop it
By ROBERT CRADDOCK
07nov04
LEG-SPINNER Anil Kumble believes Australia has no right to whinge over the Mumbai wicket and has urged groundsmen to keep those dodgy decks coming.
"Wickets in India should favour the home team, as they do the world over," Kumble said.
"When we go to Australia we do not get to play on a turning deck, even at Sydney, so why should we allow any visiting team to benefit in foreign conditions?"
There is a feeling in India that though the wicket was poor, Australia still under-achieved by being bowled out for 93 in less than a session, abandoning the disciplined plans that had stood it good stead throughout the series by batting recklessly and snatching at the small victory target of 107.
It was Australia's lowest total in the 20 years since it was bowled out for 76 against the West Indies in Perth.
By ROBERT CRADDOCK
07nov04
LEG-SPINNER Anil Kumble believes Australia has no right to whinge over the Mumbai wicket and has urged groundsmen to keep those dodgy decks coming.
"Wickets in India should favour the home team, as they do the world over," Kumble said.
"When we go to Australia we do not get to play on a turning deck, even at Sydney, so why should we allow any visiting team to benefit in foreign conditions?"
There is a feeling in India that though the wicket was poor, Australia still under-achieved by being bowled out for 93 in less than a session, abandoning the disciplined plans that had stood it good stead throughout the series by batting recklessly and snatching at the small victory target of 107.
It was Australia's lowest total in the 20 years since it was bowled out for 76 against the West Indies in Perth.
Dydl
International Debutant
JustTool said:Ignoring reality will always make you happy. JUST ADMIT it that Australia were lucky to win the series 2-1 - it should have been 2-2. Australia played a FULL STRENGTH team in the 4ths Test and the amount Ricky is complaining means they really did want to win. Remember Ricky has failed in India in Tests as a player and as a captain and it is showing in his '
Ponting played in one test and he didn't do well in it. Does that mean that he is a bad player? Everyone fails now and agian, his comeback was one of those.
He would have played in more tests and would have acheived something if his thumb hadn't been broken.
Warne didn't play prior to his own stupidity.